Incursion!

**Ophannus** · 2014-09-25 08:40

Originally Posted by Dotsudoku

Both of those sound awful

If I'm not swapping, have rr scroll/earring and rolling with yagrush whms, /WHM doesn't really offer much. Whereas if I /SMN, as soon as the WHM erases my party, I can Hastega them, or I can /GEO and stand by the sch or rdm and give them a marginal m.acc boost if there's nobody else who can come GEO, every little bit helps I suppose. Besides buffing and elegy/lightning threnodying NMs, there's really not much else to do on brd so was thinking of more creative alternatives.

**Dotsudoku** · 2014-09-25 12:15

If MP is that unimportant, sub DNC and melee

**dasva** · 2014-09-25 13:43

Originally Posted by Ophannus

I can /GEO and stand by the sch or rdm and give them a marginal m.acc boost if there's nobody else who can come GEO, every little bit helps I suppose.

But just how good is that going to be with only 1/4 the skill and no + geomancy items? I'd bet Stutter Step would probably offer better increases to hit rate while being able to do things like also lower evasion/def give the melees more haste possibly stun lessers

**Lyramion** · 2014-09-25 14:07

Equip cape and sub COR to get more CP

**Ophannus** · 2014-09-25 14:12

Is /COR potency for Corsair Roll gimped? Might do that haha. Meleeing is eh cuz I don't feel like eating a 3k Galumph.

**Priran** · 2014-09-25 15:24

Originally Posted by Ophannus

Is /COR potency for Corsair Roll gimped?

quite, it's approximately halved from the base because the "COR" is Lv.49 and you're Lv.99, plus you don't get the job bonus from having a COR and you can't wear a barataria ring

**Dotsudoku** · 2014-09-25 15:50

Originally Posted by Ophannus

Is /COR potency for Corsair Roll gimped? Might do that haha. Meleeing is eh cuz I don't feel like eating a 3k Galumph.

You're just as sturdy as any melee. Being in combat is no problem for GEO, either

**dasva** · 2014-09-25 16:39

Originally Posted by Dotsudoku

You're just as sturdy as any melee. Being in combat is no problem for GEO, either

I'd argue potentially sturdier since if you wanted to you could always Tenuto Pianissimo some defensive songs on yourself since you wont be quite as worried about your dps

**Xenhas** · 2014-09-25 17:45

Tenuto and Pianissimo don't stack.

**dasva** · 2014-09-25 19:25

Fine run out of range and tenuto at the start then Pianissimo when next cycle

**Xenhas** · 2014-09-25 20:25

If you're going for DPS, why would you even go that far out of your way to half-ass it with defensive songs? meh

**Ophannus** · 2014-09-25 20:49

So brd99/cor1 with 11 on corsairs roll would be what, +12% exp/cp?

**Fival** · 2014-09-25 21:21

Pretty sure the level of the SJ matters.
New roll potency = ( COR Level ÷ Target Level ) × Normal roll potency

I could be really bad at math, but i think thats less then 1% for brd99/cor1.

**Malithar** · 2014-09-26 02:57

Originally Posted by Dotsudoku

You're just as sturdy as any melee. Being in combat is no problem for GEO, either

This. It's just more natural for Geo I guess, since you're up in melee range anyways for 2x bubbles. Melee as /Rdm, /Blm, /Whm, or /Dnc, no real reason not to unless you're not 2x bubbling melees or mobs. /Blm backline stunning with +MAcc up for sleep on higher tiers is about the only time I don't bother meleeing.

**Damane** · 2014-09-26 04:35

Originally Posted by Malithar

This. It's just more natural for Geo I guess, since you're up in melee range anyways for 2x bubbles. Melee as /Rdm, /Blm, /Whm, or /Dnc, no real reason not to unless you're not 2x bubbling melees or mobs. /Blm backline stunning with +MAcc up for sleep on higher tiers is about the only time I don't bother meleeing.

i never bother meleeing usualky i take the task of debuffing pulling sleeping and support cure.

**Lyramion** · 2014-09-26 05:37

Opened a batch of 77 grand Coffers. Landed at exactly 8 capes.

CP+ Values: 10 11 13 16 18 19 21 23

Originally Posted by Damane

i never bother meleeing usualky i take the task of debuffing pulling sleeping and support cure.

Like a real man would ! /stare Mal

**Malithar** · 2014-09-26 05:46

Originally Posted by Lyramion

Like a real man would ! /stare Mal

Oy, I do all that too. Not my fault a mythic Sch can't land sleep! ;D

**Damane** · 2014-09-26 06:23

Originally Posted by Malithar

Oy, I do all that too. Not my fault a mythic Sch can't land sleep! ;D

not like geo-Focus isnt a must to land sleep on NMs later on! even a sch mythic cant do shit withou it unless AM1 is up

**Tachi** · 2014-09-26 21:09

I noticed some strange differences in the damage taken by Vanquisher Gramk-Droog over several MB runs. In some 133 runs Night Terror was doing 4800~ damage and Nether Blast 3600~, while in others it was 2400~ Night Terror and 1900~ Nether Blast (half). Same thing for physical BPs too but it's less easy to tell if it's because of Frailty debuff, criticals or something else. However, my Garuda managed to do 8 Predator Claw in a row for 11,000~12,000 damage (each) on a 131 run once (double/triple of what it should do). I don't know yet what trigger these changes but I don't believe it has something to do with Protect/Shell or the GEO spells and Bolster.

**Byrthnoth** · 2014-09-26 21:35

The run I just did, he was very weak to Ice, took normalish damage from Lightning, and took absolutely shit damage from Dark. I'm pretty sure it was Darksday.

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