FFXIV 3.0 : Heavensward - Expansion Information and Discussion

[Taint]

I am actually quite surprised people here care for "Early Access", because endgame won't happen for 4 weeks after launch (or lolcasualendgame 2 weeks after launch). Of course, this is based on the assumption that you can do the MSQ in a week or 2 (casually even), like 2.0's MSQ to be able to enter the endgame raid. So EA and the first 2 weeks of Heavensward: not a single fuck is given imo.

Its actually really nice for me. Normally I fall behind in content due to our raiding schedule and my playtime. The 4 week buffer will allow me to get caught up, level a couple jobs to 60 and be ready for Alexander HM without neglecting my family/job.

[Appie]

I think generic hype about new jobs, exploration and expansion buzz is alone worth trying Early Access. Considering Yoshida's lofty 'this will be fucking huge' speak with regards to zones and scenario things.

Rushing the endgame to complain about shitty drops isn't most peoples cup of tea.

He said the MSQ was about the size of 2.0, so for the scenario we can guess. As for new jobs, I don't expect that to take much time either. I started from scratch in 2.0 pretty much (had 3 jobs at 20 from the last "Beta" before 2.0) and my casual ass was getting mythology tomestones in the second week after launch. Think I stepped into my first Coil like a week or so later? This all didn't feel like I "rushed" to endgame. Hell, everything up to this point, including Coil, was me exploring. Which can be alot of fun, I agree, but if there's no carrot at the end of the road, I can't be arsed to care.

[Ratatapa]

I am actually quite surprised people here care for "Early Access", because endgame won't happen for 4 weeks after launch (or lolcasualendgame 2 weeks after launch). Of course, this is based on the assumption that you can do the MSQ in a week or 2 (casually even), like 2.0's MSQ to be able to enter the endgame raid. So EA and the first 2 weeks of Heavensward: not a single fuck is given imo.

Faster we pass the start faster we can try to dodge the plebs

[Adajer]

I am actually quite surprised people here care for "Early Access", because endgame won't happen for 4 weeks after launch (or lolcasualendgame 2 weeks after launch). Of course, this is based on the assumption that you can do the MSQ in a week or 2 (casually even), like 2.0's MSQ to be able to enter the endgame raid. So EA and the first 2 weeks of Heavensward: not a single fuck is given imo.

I dont think anyone will be complaining much about having to wait 4 weeks for endgame content. If there isnt enough content added for you to enjoy the game for a month before endgame, something is wrong with you or the game.

[Ratatapa]

I dont think anyone will be complaining much about having to wait 4 weeks for endgame content. If there isnt enough content added for you to enjoy the game for a month before endgame, something is wrong with you or the game.

That's not the issue. It's SE lying again. " we want you to enjoy the game so raid will be 4 weeks after"

While the truth is, we will put raid 4 weeks later, so people don't bitch too fast about the lack of real content

With all the lockouts it's useless to level other jobs as a "content"

I mean when coil was in lockout I was sch, what will I do with monk 50. Expert roulette? Then what

[Niiro]

The lockout system forcing you into specializing in 1 job is certainly a waste of the game's potential (ie. you can play every job on one character, but only 1 in content that matters).

It's also a way to artificially lengthen content along with lockouts, if people could gear and play more than 1 job in endgame content groups would be easier to make and content easier to clear.

[Takiwaki]

I don't get how being able to gear more than one job for endgame makes clearing content easier. Mind explaining?

[Elcura]

I don't get how being able to gear more than one job for endgame makes clearing content easier. Mind explaining?

It only makes it easier in that it offers some flexibility. It's essentially the same if everyone plays whatever 1 job they do really well, but if you have multiple people who are geared and skilled you can switch job configurations (and people, honestly, which would be the best use of it) to suit the turn.

It offers a lot more options without a stable static basically.

[Whaleporn]

If you can gear a DPS spec and a tank spec at the same it means that if you hit a fight where you can 1 tank to overcome a DPS hump then you'll just do that and won't have to bench the player whom is your OT tank for someone who's been using their lockouts on DPS gear.

If you're perfect players im sure that a dps in baseline gear would be fine but in a non-perfect world a little extra gear makes everything easier.

[Ramset]

It's almost impossible to purposely gear two jobs at once during progression without gimping one of them.

[Gulkeeva]

I am actually quite surprised people here care for "Early Access", because endgame won't happen for 4 weeks after launch (or lolcasualendgame 2 weeks after launch). Of course, this is based on the assumption that you can do the MSQ in a week or 2 (casually even), like 2.0's MSQ to be able to enter the endgame raid. So EA and the first 2 weeks of Heavensward: not a single fuck is given imo.

I'm all for early access, especially for FFXIV.

Get my classes lvled up to cap and cap the weekly tokens, get my other classes lvl, my gathering/crafting up, start shoveling that gil by the hundreds of millions as those that didn't get early access, but want all the cool new toys, buy from me~

[The Stig]

4 days of Early Access is too insignificant for me to make it feel special. I'm unsure why they even bothered to offer it as a pre-order bonus. More in-game items would be fine.

[Appie]

I'm all for early access, especially for FFXIV.

Get my classes lvled up to cap and cap the weekly tokens, get my other classes lvl, my gathering/crafting up, start shoveling that gil by the hundreds of millions as those that didn't get early access, but want all the cool new toys, buy from me~

Except weekly tokens won't be added for 4 (or 2?) weeks after launch?

And I would be capping every job as well if SE would let me gear more than 2-3 jobs each ilvl cycle. So I have to pick favourites. I expect I can get 2 jobs from 50 (or 30 if I like a new job) to 60 in 2 weeks.

Also lolgil.

[AoE]

When the fuck are they going to allow digital pre-orders on PSN? Or am I blind and not seeing it?

[Rocl]

If I remember rightly (and I may not) the weekly capped tomestones aren't available until Alexander (Hard/Savage) is release, so definitely not early access lol

It's possible that the weekly scrips might be released beforehand though (DoH/DoL shit) ? I can't remember anything about those

[Hiryo]

Also lolgil.

I think they said the hardest part about building an airship will be the materials to gather rather than crafting the ships themselves. Aka if you want to visit NM island you'll need to buy mats. Especially with the new DoL passes/buffs making you choose to gather 1 item instead of another.

[Lucavi]

If I remember rightly (and I may not) the weekly capped tomestones aren't available until Alexander (Hard/Savage) is release, so definitely not early access lol

It's possible that the weekly scrips might be released beforehand though (DoH/DoL shit) ? I can't remember anything about those

Its less early access and more staggered launch to potentially reduce server loads. It won't do much for the queues, though, as eventually, all those people will have access at the same time.

We'll see, though. The "features" offered certainly don't help.

[Ratatapa]

When the fuck are they going to allow digital pre-orders on PSN? Or am I blind and not seeing it?

Dev said they are trying to work it out with Sony, but don't worry you'll get EA and preorder items

[Appie]

I think they said the hardest part about building an airship will be the materials to gather rather than crafting the ships themselves. Aka if you want to visit NM island you'll need to buy mats. Especially with the new DoL passes/buffs making you choose to gather 1 item instead of another.

Considering SE's methods to make RMT as useless as possible without selling currency themselves in game like some other MMO's do, I am not holding my breath that this will suddenly make gil something more valuable (or harder to obtain) than what it was for 2.x.

[Niiro]

I'm still expecting FC airships to be basically just FC housing crossed with treasure maps.