FFXIV 3.0 : Heavensward - Expansion Information and Discussion

[LinktheDeme]

I believe you should be able to apply the code to the ps4. It will ask u which platfrom when u enter the initial 18digit code at the early access site. Unless you already did that and got the new 20 digit for pc, then yea, you'll need to trade off.

Yep I did this under the assumption that it would be allowed for PC. It's kind of silly that at the account management level that steam accounts can't apply since it all goes into the same system. I figured it was only if you pre-ordered the expansion on steam that you could not get the code.


I already have the 20 digit code.

[Prothescar]

Kinda weird that they're going back and making primal/T9 weapons for the new jobs but not relics

[Niiro]

They already have all the textures and effects for primal weapons made, I imagine it's not all that hard to just tack them onto different weapon molds.

For relics they'd have to create and waste an original weapon design.

[Sho]

I'm guessing it's not so much drawing design rather than having every job on the same level with 3.0 relic.

I am interested in how much if a shortcut having a Zodiac will be for people starting on a 3.0 relic. I'm gonna guess that having a Zodiac will get you 1~4 steps into the new relic weapon, but everyone will be able to start and complete one regardless of prior relics.

[Edelweiss]

I'm guessing it's not so much drawing design rather than having every job on the same level with 3.0 relic.

I am interested in how much if a shortcut having a Zodiac will be for people starting on a 3.0 relic. I'm gonna guess that having a Zodiac will get you 1~4 steps into the new relic weapon, but everyone will be able to start and complete one regardless of prior relics.

I'd be more concerned that all of these custom melds are going to go to waste.

[Sho]

I'd be more concerned that all of these custom melds are going to go to waste.

To be fair, we don't know if the custom meld system will be carried over or not. Can see it going either way, really.

[Niiro]

Your melds will all be carried over to whatever the new thing is for sure, they wouldn't screw people out of the materia they spent.

How stat allocation will work for the new jobs relics is anyone's guess, but in practice it'll probably mirror the way old relics worked (barance).

Custom melds were the entire reason for making relics, take them away and they just go back to being pure welfare weapons for people who can't clear raids.

[Voyage1970]

With regards to the Primal/T9 weapons, they probably had these jobs (at least in concept) in the works for quite a while. The concept art and basic models for specific weapons like the primal or Allagan stuff was most likely conceived before they had decided when they were going to release the jobs.

With them releasing it at expansion instead of before hand like with NIN, which they had originally planned on doing considering they said new Jobs would be in numbered patches not full expansions, they would be wasting assets they had already made. 99% sure they did in fact create relic models for the new jobs but since they are releasing at expansion when a new set of relic weapons is due to be revealed they just grandfathered those designs into the new weapons.

[Silenka]

I always thought that QoL adjustments were implemented gradually rather than all at once just to make sure they had "content" for updates. Give us everything at once and there's nothing to go "oh SE redeemed themselves a little by adding/adjusting this" about later on. This at least seemed to be the case in XI. Especially for stuff they claimed was "impossible" and then implemented a couple patches later. I'm still almost 100% sure we'll eventually see a fisher tacklebox despite having read that they consider it too difficult to implement. (Seriously, what a load of BS).

I do expect a lot of the QoL stuff people have been asking for to be implemented in the first and/or second patch of Heavensward though. If not, well...there's just so much that needs changing and updating, I don't see why they wouldn't...

[Gokulo]

Now this made me hope that some cool QoL will come with HW!

[Niiro]

If not, well...there's just so much that needs changing and updating, I don't see why they wouldn't...

Other than sheer incompetence and/or apathy I can only imagine it's because of having to do changes for all 3 platforms (and, yes, having to make stuff work within the PS3's RAM limitations).

Back when I found out that Focus Target wasn't originally in the PS3 version and they had to work around the memory usage to get it in, I knew shit was only gonna go downhill from there.

[Ophannus]

Unlike FFXI which was a PS2 title, ffxiv was pc only for years(1.0) and ARR was on PC only at launch. I seriously hope we don't encounter ps3 limitations in 4 years like how ffxi had ps2 limitations.

[Kaslo]

Unlike FFXI which was a PS2 title, ffxiv was pc only for years(1.0) and ARR was on PC only at launch. I seriously hope we don't encounter ps3 limitations in 4 years like how ffxi had ps2 limitations.

I thought PS3 release was synonymous with ARR launch, PS4 like 8 months later.

[Niiro]

Yea, 2.0 launched on PC/PS3.

[Gulkeeva]

We already experience PS3 limitations, yoshi P just says "memory issues" instead of saying PS3 limitations (for a very long time now)

[Destinye]

We already experience PS3 limitations, yoshi P just says "memory issues" instead of saying PS3 limitations (for a very long time now)

Yep, which people misinterpret - For example despite PS2 limitations with XI's design, it still manages to do more than ARR does in certain areas. So while ARR has better graphics and such..it skimps on some basic features that even the most generic of korean MMOs can do, and something even XI does.

The main problem is:

"I don't want to increase the load time on the backend."

Get a better backend if increasing load time to a barely noticeable rate is that bad of a thing you'd avoid doing what a 17 year old game (by design) does. I think the only time "memory issues" really stopped something was when he mentioned battle arena design and certain hairstyles (aside the native massive clipping.)

[Niiro]

When referring to memory issues I generally assume it's a reference to RAM.

They can't backend stuff that has to be readily/actively accessible to the client.

[The Stig]

When referring to memory issues I generally assume it's a reference to RAM.

They can't backend stuff that has to be readily/actively accessible to the client.

Sorry not to point out you're incorrect but it reminded me of this which was particularly funny to me when I first watched it

[Rocl]

fuckin Moss man

[Xanthe]

fuckin Moss man

Mossman?