FFXIV 3.0 : Heavensward - Expansion Information and Discussion

[Lucavi]

Well, yes... it's a lot easier to implement new jobs when you make them fundamentally the same as the old ones.

We have a new tank that (probably?) focuses on -damage taken CDs. Like our old ones, but this one has a really big sword.
We have a new support job that is also a ranged physical DPS, but sacrifices their damage to do MP/TP regen. Like our old one, but this one has a gun.
We have a new healer that can direct heal or use shields, which goes well with our healer that casts direct heals and our healer that casts shields. But this one also gambles!

All of these jobs will be overpowered at release just to get the numbers up, but don't worry... in two months we'll nerf any significant difference into irrelevance.

Lazy still isn't the word you're looking for here. Uninspired, safe, passive; hell I'd even throw you a pass with "craven" and "cowardly", but "lazy" is not the word to use. All development and programming takes work and serious effort from the staffs involved, not just ones that involve combat and rotation systems that you personally deem satisfactory.

I used to throw the word lazy around left in right when talking about mechanics I didn't like, until I understood more about actual game design. Even a shitty Korean grinder isn't lazy if the assets are brand new and the engine is custom; its just a souless cash-grab. That doesn't make anyone working on it lazy, though.

[Rocl]

I think we're all missing the obvious here. Yoshida is once again righting a sinking ship. This track will begin to play at the end of 3.0, and we'll get a whole redone Eorzea again for 4.0 like we did for 2.0:

[Xanthe]

I think we're all missing the obvious here. Yoshida is once again righting a sinking ship. This track will begin to play at the end of 3.0, and we'll get a whole redone Eorzea again for 4.0 like we did for 2.0:

Spoiler: show

At first I was like
http://oi60.tinypic.com/2v3na4l.jpg

but then I was like
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[Shenrien]

Just in time for the PS3 drop by the end of 3.X series and for them to rework the old world to have much wider zones, mostly cities because they feel too small as they are right now with how they're split up, Limsa being the only one that feels big because of all the little narrow pathways that lead out around the city.

11.a Cities will keep the current divided format (upper, lower deck for Limsa). PS3 wouldn't be able to handle the city size otherwise.
11.b PS3 support will be stopped in the end of 3.x. patches

[Lucavi]

I think we're all missing the obvious here. Yoshida is once again righting a sinking ship. This track will begin to play at the end of 3.0, and we'll get a whole redone Eorzea again for 4.0 like we did for 2.0:

Sometimes, you magnificent bastard, you get it right.

[Sho]

I think we're all missing the obvious here. Yoshida is once again righting a sinking ship. This track will begin to play at the end of 3.0, and we'll get a whole redone Eorzea again for 4.0 like we did for 2.0:

This fucking guy right here. This fucking guy.

[Niiro]

11.b PS3 support will be stopped in the end of 3.x. patches

I'll believe this when I see it.

[Neon_Sea]

Seeing a lot of detail on new skills and what not, can someone direct me to a place (if there is any) where new Ninja stuff has been talked about?

[Voyage1970]

From what little the guy played around with on NIN during his hands on the only thing that was drastic was positional requirements being added to existing NIN combos. Aside from that he didn't have much else to talk about, though he admits he's a MNK main and was more interested in screwing around with the new jobs and MNK rather than the others.

Edit: Here's a list someone on r/FFXIV compiled of all the information that's been pieced together from the Hands-On Link

[Rocl]

Spoiler: show

4. FFXIV-JOL : Beaucoup de joueurs de FFXI regrettent l'absence de contenu basé sur le système d' "Alliance", comme Dynamis, sky ou sea. Ce travail d'équipe manque au contenu actuel, comme par exemple la Tour de Cristal. Est-ce qu'on peut s'attendre à l'arrivée de ce genre de contenu ?

Yoshida : C'est vraiment difficile de vous répondre, parce que si je vous dis "oui", les gens vont dire "OH MON DIEU ! Dynamis revient sur FFXIV !" ! Du coup j'aimerais prendre le temps de choisir mes mots prudemment, parce qu'il y a aussi beaucoup de joueurs qui n'aiment pas Dynamis. Il faut garder l'équilibre.

Mais les joueurs aiment vraiment les instances avec du contenu varié, comme Dynamis, où la linéarité n'est pas reine.


Yoshida : Je ne vais pas utiliser le mot "Dynamis" parce que la notion, le concept, l'image de Dynamis est trop forte dans l'esprit des joueurs.

Cela étant dit, dans les versions 3.x, l'aventure s'élèvera vers le ciel, où vous ferez de nouvelles rencontres, découvrirez de nouveaux objets, etc., vous aurez du challenge à chaque étape - soyez attentifs aux informations que nous vous partagerons !
J'espère sincèrement que vous vivrez des expériences nouvelles avec la 3.0, avec du contenu totalement nouveau par rapport aux versions 2.x.

My french is rusty but from what I can manage it sounds like there's some possibility of non-linear, broader content but it's Yoshida PR fluff so grain of salt. That is to say, it sounds like there will be XIV Alliance shit, but it won't be until 3.x and 3.x's content is supposed to be unlike 3.0's content? So instead it looks like he's trying to get away from 1 Trial + 3 Dungeons + sometimes raid patches but don't expect XI shit because fuck Dynamis, etc.

[Neon_Sea]

Gotcha, so positionals being added to existing combos huh. I don't really care about positionals I just hope they get some meat, instead of "decreased enmity goad" and "increase huton move"...etc

[Shenrien]

I'll believe this when I see it.

Can wait for Slycer to finish translating stuff or you can google fish translate it yourself

http://ffxiv.jeuxonline.info/article...ntes-interview

[Ratatapa]

My french is rusty but from what I can manage it sounds like there's some possibility of non-linear, broader content but it's Yoshida PR fluff so grain of salt. That is to say, it sounds like there will be XIV Alliance shit, but it won't be until 3.x and 3.x's content is supposed to be unlike 3.0's content? So instead it looks like he's trying to get away from 1 Trial + 3 Dungeons + sometimes raid patches but don't expect XI shit because fuck Dynamis, etc.

You're pretty much right he's saying he doesn't wanna say yes to dynamis so people don't go OMG DYNAMIS IS BACK IN XIV

He's saying he will use the word dynamis because it's a known word and concept for players. In the 3.X version the adventure will go in the sky, where you will make new meetings, find new objects etc. You will get new challenges at each step : Please pay attention to the informations we will share with you. I sincerely hope that would will feel new experiences in 3.0 with totally new content versus 2.X

[Rocl]

Can wait for Slycer to finish translating stuff or you can google fish translate it yourself

http://ffxiv.jeuxonline.info/article...ntes-interview

Can Slycer even read French!? But yes, it definitely says "When will you end support of PS3?" and Yoshida says "Near the end of 3.x"

MSQ Roulette will contain ARR and Heavensward Content, there will be a separate roulette for Heavensward- Hard and Heavensward- Expert. He also mentions the "non-linear, big group" content again but the question is fucked up apparently.

[Ratatapa]

Can Slycer even read French!? But yes, it definitely says "When will you end support of PS3?" and Yoshida says "Near the end of 3.x"

MSQ Roulette will contain ARR and Heavensward Content, there will be a separate roulette for Heavensward- Hard and Heavensward- Expert.

This part is funny
11. FFXIV-Jol : Est-ce qu'il est envisageable à l'avenir de réunir les 2 moitiés de chaque cité en une seule zone? Voir même carrément réunir les cités avec la zone extérieure voisine?

Yoshida : Non, aucun changement de prévu. La PS3 ne le supporterait pas.

AKa do you plan to fusion both sides of each city? Yoshida : No PS3 wouldn't support it

[Rocl]

Yeah, "when will you make the cities one big zone?"

"We can't, PS3 can't handle it"

Follow-up: "When will you stop PS3 support?"

"By the end of 3.x"

[Ratatapa]

I could translate that text if people want to, in b4 lolrata's english

[Takiwaki]

ama live if anyone interested

http://www.twitch.tv/pcgamesn

[Rocl]

I could translate that text if people want to, in b4 lolrata's english

inb4 lolrocl's french but i looked through it and aside from #4 and #11 it wasn't much 'new' info (non-linear, larger group content and dropping PS3 support)

oh, yeah they were moving the Chaos server group to the EU servers when they release or something (which is supposed to be done before the end of the year)

[Elcura]

Edit: Here's a list someone on r/FFXIV compiled of all the information that's been pieced together from the Hands-On Link

MNK
Tornado Kick - 500 potency attack that consumes 3 stacks of Greased Lightning
Chakra - Applies a stacking Chakra buff that can be consumed for either a powerful attack, or instant TP regain, once at 5 stacks.
Forbidden Chakra - Highly damaging attack, consumes 5 stacks of Chakra.
??? - Instantly regains 200 TP, Consumes 5 stacks of Chakra. Long cooldown.
Move Form - A free ability on GCD that allows you to shift form in order while there is nothing to attack
Does not give Greased Lightning when moving from Coeurl to Opo-Opo.
Elixir Drive - Kamehameha-like beam attack.

Elixir Drive - Kamehameha-like beam attack.

If this is true we might be MNK main again.

Move Form sounds like you can start your rotation with Demolish (and GL1) hopefully. Chakra sounds mediocre and totally unexciting. But if Kamehame-ha is real, WE IN THERE.