FFXIV 3.0 : Heavensward - Expansion Information and Discussion

[Shenrien]

Can't imagine why one would think you could level and experience expansion content without the actual expansion.

[Jem]

Not like it would be beneficial being able to level without the expansion given that all the old instances are capped at 50 anyway.

[Gokulo]

Not like it would be beneficial being able to level without the expansion given that all the old instances are capped at 50 anyway.

But the open world content man

[Kaslo]

Can't imagine why one would think you could level and experience expansion content without the actual expansion.

I don't think the question was about experiencing expansion content.

[Ratatapa]

I should've guessed it when they said that HL dungeons wouldn't get EXP so people could experience the expansion, but still dumb imo

[Shenrien]

Some of not most quests that are used to advance jobs are locked behind expansion zones, what's the point of leveling to 60 in old world if you can't even gain the true benefits of the job?

[lilbubbles]

This is silly, no one is planning to never get the expansion.

There are some people who just don't have it yet, and them getting exp wouldn't hurt.

[Gokulo]

This is nothing new for MMOs so people shouldn't be surprised.

[Adajer]

Anything beyond lvl 50 is not what you purchased. Anyone who bought 2.0 only has access to lvl 50 stuff because that is where that game ends, the game that you bought. It is stupid to think you will be given access to HW content or expansion without buying it.

that is like expecting to be able to play FFX-2 free of charge because you bought FFX.

[Kaslo]

that is like expecting to be able to play FFX-2 free of charge because you bought FFX.

You need a lesson in similes

[Niiro]

A completely unfounded rumour that was spreading across Faerie through shouts for a while was people thinking that FATE exp was deliberately terrible in the new zones because Yoshi-P and crew didn't want people using them to bum rush to 60. People think that it'll be fixed in a hot patch or in a couple weeks when Alexander is released and most players have at least gotten their first job to 60.

Again, while somewhat plausible, it's a completely unfounded rumour that I thought could be interesting for some discussion.

I don't know why you'd consider this a "rumor".

All % exp gains (FATEs, roulettes, challenge logs) were nerfed into the ground and TNLs ballooned to ridiculous levels, it's abundantly clear they wanted to make leveling to 60 take a long time to stretch things out.



The worst part about FATEs is the difficulty scaling, if a large group did a FATE previously but now they're off somewhere else it takes an absurd amount of time (way more than would be worthwhile) to do an up-scaled FATE with just a few people. This only encourages people to do FATE parties so you've always got a group to take them down faster but if you're in a party you can't queue for dungeons (which are far better for exp, not to mention gear).

And, naturally, you still can't call your choco while in queue (2 years now, still workin on it! promise!) so for DPS trying to do FATEs while in queue for dungeons you better hope there's other people around doing them or you're not gonna last long.

[Niiro]

Also they made it so we can enter dungeons with less than the required amount, but we still can't bring chocobos.

[The Stig]

It's my dream one day for them to enable retainers to join you. They can act like Trusts in FFXI. But the twist is that we have to gear them as well.

[Kaslo]

It's my dream one day for them to enable retainers to join you. They can act like Trusts in FFXI. But the twist is that we have to gear them as well.

Trusts would be epic... I would love to have Hilda join me in a dungeon... alone... wait what are we talking about again?

[Gokulo]

Yes, after coming back to XI for a bit I fell in love with Trusts. Give pls.

[The Stig]

oh that was in response to Niiro about how we can enter dungeons solo, but not bring chocos
In response I said I wish we can bring our retainers one day for that purpose and have them act like Trusts.

[Niiro]

At this rate SE will do that before they let us bring in chocobos if only because it's another incentive for people to pay extra for more fucking retainers.

[Bigsyke]

While we are talking about newer FFXI systems, I wish the challenge log was like RoE.

[Raldo]

While we are talking about newer FFXI systems, I wish the challenge log was like RoE.

Because... you like having to remember changing it every time you do something different?

I appreciate that RoE has a vast number of categories, but having to dig through the menus to find what's most appropriate for what you're doing... ehh.

[Gokulo]

Because... you like having to remember changing it every time you do something different?

I appreciate that RoE has a vast number of categories, but having to dig through the menus to find what's most appropriate for what you're doing... ehh.

Of course it could be modernized to be less annoying.