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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Also FEMA mobilized to be on site immediately and DeSantis said no and made them wait.

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    Not saying DeSantis doesn't suck, but do you have a source on this? I'm trying to google it and coming up with nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydreamer View Post
    Not saying DeSantis doesn't suck, but do you have a source on this? I'm trying to google it and coming up with nothing.
    https://twitter.com/hannahdreier/sta...852513289?s=19

    I guess "said no" is too strong, it's more like "ignored FEMA entirely."

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    Ignore FEMA, come back later and whine that the Democratic President did nothing to help. He would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    https://twitter.com/hannahdreier/sta...852513289?s=19

    I guess "said no" is too strong, it's more like "ignored FEMA entirely."

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    Thank you. This makes much more sense. I assume had he specifically said no it would have been all over the news. This is much more subtle.

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    Man, this whole thing sucks. That's a massive loss of life for something like this, and it could have been so much worse...

    Can't imagine the anxiety among people living in that area now. Must be hard to sleep at night with your mind racing across all of the possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucavi View Post
    Man, this whole thing sucks. That's a massive loss of life for something like this, and it could have been so much worse...

    Can't imagine the anxiety among people living in that area now. Must be hard to sleep at night with your mind racing across all of the possibilities.
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    This happened like 25 minutes from my current residence.

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    Lmfao, what a fucking legend.

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    How could you even be mad at him?

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    Lol at Regional Jimspector. Best made up job title ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://news.yahoo.com/inspection-re...073026965.html

    The town of Surfside posted a dozen documents to its website late Friday night relating to the collapsed Champlain Towers South building.

    They've known since October 2018 that the garage had major structural damage from a failure in waterproofing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybar View Post
    "Concrete repairs should be done in a timely fashion." What a shitty report overall. This gives anyone with any potential for blame a lot of leeway "well, what is a timely fashion, 1 year, 5 years?"
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ng/5369756001/

    And now we have the name of the person who let the issue slide.

    A month later a town building official told board members the structure was in “very good shape,” according to minutes of that meeting released Monday.

    The Surfside official, Rosendo “Ross” Prieto, was quoted as making those comments at a meeting of the condo board on Nov. 15, 2018.
    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    Looks like they sought out a estimation in 2019, $9M.

    https://apnews.com/article/business-...1e88a5b27c501f
    There was un update to the evaluation this past April.

    An April letter from the building's condo association president said damage to the basement garage had “gotten significantly worse” since an inspection less than three years ago, and that deterioration of the building’s concrete was “accelerating.” The letter, obtained by USA TODAY, also said the estimated cost for the repair had increased from $9 million to more than $15 million.

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    Well hopefully this will open peoples eyes and structural damage to the foundation of a large building is serious and absolutely needs to be dealt with in a timely manahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahhahaha as if

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    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...252421658.html

    A pool contractor who was putting together a bid for a pool restoration took photos of some of the damage that was happening below the complex just 36 hours before the collapse. Major cracking and corrosion. He also said that there was standing water on the underground parking.
    The Miami Herald interviewed the building's manager from the 1990s and he said that ocean saltwater would frequently leak into the parking structure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaspinne View Post
    Ahhh, I was figuring Florida being Florida and allowing for cheap/shitty/badly engineered building codes and standards and etc
    So the more and more that comes out about this, the more my original assumption is correct =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ng/5369756001/

    And now we have the name of the person who let the issue slide.





    There was un update to the evaluation this past April.
    The 2018 report photos looked no worse than typical concrete deterioration, but I was way more concerned about the delaminated and spalled concrete on the balconies than in the parking garage. If this building was post-tensioned (likely given its age, but not indicated in the report), failed tenons in the slab would not be visually noticeable. A failed tenon reduces the load capacity of the slab, and can be caused by corrosion that deteriorates the cable strands that make up a tenon. The consistent presence of standing water (allegedly sea water, too) accelerates the deterioration and was indicated by the severe corrosion by the pool contractor.

    This is a nightmare for that engineering firm, and I'd love to be a fly on the wall for that meeting. I've had a case similar to this cross my desk. I inspected an old terra cotta building and filed a report indicating facade repairs need to be done within the year. 2 months later a piece fell off the building in the middle of the night. I nearly shit my pants the next morning.

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    Trump is scheduled for a rally event in Sarasota this Saturday and DeSantis is begging him to postpone while people are still grieving and focused on recovery efforts, Trump says the show must go on. First real rift between the two to my knowledge.

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    Miami-Dade Mayor has announced that search and rescue will end tonight. Now it is just a recovery effort. 18 more bodies found today. Death toll up to 54.

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