GamerGate thread

[Mazmaz]

Uh, you're an idiot. There's a difference between doing a presentation to a bunch of people who are dressed in shorts and t-shirts or wearing costumes and trying to appear as a victim to the general population while at the same time accusing everyone of being satan.

What do you mean? E3 is a presentation for journalists. It's the pristine environment to be professional. Because that would be the ETHICAL thing to do.

[Teryu]

Yeah Kamiya is kind of insane in any regard, but apparently he makes good games so it's ok.

[Teryu]

What do you mean? E3 is a presentation for journalists. It's the pristine environment to be professional. Because that would be the ETHICAL thing to do.

Yeah I'm sure the 4 friends my dev friend who cosplayed at E3 were journalists.

[Karbuncle]

I quoted him in full. Instead of addressing content he's finding fault with the appearance of women talking about a topic he pretends to care about. Is there some context that makes it better?

I took his comment to be more about how unkempt the one women looked in that video, as opposed to even Anita taking the time to look professional(ish?) in her videos, which I think would have been an accurate observation if not entirely pointless... Though I guess he could have just been herp derping and I don't know his posts too much.

[Mazmaz]

Ethics is game journalism! All men should wear suits at E3 so they're professional journalists! #suitsatE3

[Mazmaz]

This just in: woman on the run from death threats unkempt for 20th interview in the week

[Mazmaz]

interview for a fucking youtube channel

[Teryu]

I guess when I start my career as a professional victim that I should just wear my boxers, a wife beater and do more meth than my body weight before an interview.

[Karbuncle]

interview for a fucking youtube channel

if not entirely pointless

Maz, reading is not that hard and I know you're capable of doing it. I'm saying it was an accurate observation, but pointless.

Edit: For the topic of professionalism in these situations. I'm actually more toward the side of enjoying a casual feel in places of work and such, as long as you look like you bathe regularly and your clothes are clean, because it makes it feel more friendly and comfortable. I imagine the devs at E3 know gamers and most people normally don't give a damn about suit/ties in a place people dress up as cats, so they dress more casual. Its also a bit more inviting than a suit and tie fellow talking to you. Maybe its just me, but i feel more comfortable talking to/listening to people who are dressed in a more casual way than I would someone in a suit/tie. This will of course vary based on he situation, but I find it to be true in places like game conferences/tournaments/E3 type deals.

I mean, at FanFest Yoshi wore a James Bond shirt which i believe was a teaser at something but still... the point stands... normally when it comes to gaming and gaming events, Suits and ties aren't really required or cared about by participants.

[Kuya]

Don't misunderstand Kamiya.
He's not for or against GamerGate. He simply doesn't give a shit.

That aside, you really should follow him if you don't already. He's hilarious and his reasons for blocking people are just as hilarious.

My friends send me screencaps of his shit all the time. He is legit funny.

[Mazmaz]

I guess when I start my career as a professional victim that I should just wear my boxers, a wife beater and do more meth than my body weight before an interview.

Don't worry, probably almost no one will comment on it because you're a man.

[Teryu]

Which part, the part no one cares about how men look or the part where no one cares if men get death threats because they don't have a vagina and they didn't howl and scream to the heavens about it.

[Mazmaz]

the first

[Teryu]

With your posts it seems like the second.

[Kuya]

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/vide...ies-and-Comics

This video by moviebob perfectly encapsulates how I feel about complaints about feminist criticism in video games. As was already mentioned earlier in the thread: the complaint that using a feminist lense to criticisze games or advocating for more inclusiveness in games is somehow dragging politics into games is fallacious because politics permeates every sphere in society, including games. And people who say that advocating inclusiveness in games is pushing politics into games should beware that what they're really saying isn't that they don't want that kind of politics in their games.

[Priran]

and there's a line in this video going around where some hipster with an origami sockpuppet quotes rationalwiki at people which perfectly encapsulates how deluded that argument is, which goes something like:

"All games are political. Even games which aren't political are implicitly political in their rejection of politics."

[Teryu]

Moviebob defended Other M.

That's all I have to say about his opinions.

[BaneTheBrawler]

With your posts it seems like the second.

maz has a talent for making even the most universally sensible argument seem like a whiny demand, which is why nothing he says will ever be the final word.

[Kibble]

I guess when I start my career as a professional victim that I should just wear my boxers, a wife beater and do more meth than my body weight before an interview.

You're that Jordan Owen douchebag who has the largest hard-on for Anita? Goddamn celebrity in here. How's that documentary going?

[Kuya]

and there's a line in this video going around where some hipster with an origami sockpuppet quotes rationalwiki at people which perfectly encapsulates how deluded that argument is, which goes something like:

"All games are political. Even games which aren't political are implicitly political in their rejection of politics."

That's a fair point, but does that mean you only like games that are absolutely devoid of any political message or do you simply not like certain political messages in your games?