GamerGate thread

[Kuya]

I know I certainly don't like pro-join the military messages in my games and that can tend to ruin the enjoyment for me, but that's just a matter of my personal tastes and convictions. I'm certainly not going to mask my inclinations by claiming i'm opposed to political messages in videogames when what I really mean is certain political messages that offend me while others I take for granted.

[BaneTheBrawler]

i feel like if you're playing a comrade-in-arms ww2 game a little pro-military overtone is appropriate

[Galkaeater]

I'll join the military when we start fighting space bugs
humans i think i'll pass

[Priran]

That's a fair point, but does that mean you only like games that are absolutely devoid of any political message or do you simply not like certain political messages in your games?

It's what the developer makes of it. If the game is going to put a political idea front and center, it should contribute to whatever it is the game is trying to do to be fun. Take any of the Bioshock games. They're all heavily political, but the goal of this isn't to convince the player to adopt a new viewpoint, it's to explore that idea as a vehicle for creating a believable setting and in this case, it works and the game is better for its inclusion. Conversely, the new Borderlands isn't terrible because Anthony Burch jammed his politics in anywhere he could find room, it's terrible because the writing overall is cringeworthy meme references, the gameplay is stale, and the game runs like shit. And on the other end of how strongly incorporated a political idea can be, Civilization Beyond Earth has a political message, but you really have to dig for it and this is a good thing because it contributes relatively little to the atmosphere and nothing to the gameplay.

[BaneTheBrawler]

don't dirty bomb chengdu

[Priran]

don't dirty bomb chengdu

Dirty bomb yourself as a pretense for invading the middle east
The global economy needs a hegemon
America is run by corporations but it's also the only one who gets anything done

[Mazmaz]

It's what the developer makes of it. If the game is going to put a political idea front and center, it should contribute to whatever it is the game is trying to do to be fun. Take any of the Bioshock games. They're all heavily political, but the goal of this isn't to convince the player to adopt a new viewpoint, it's to explore that idea as a vehicle for creating a believable setting and in this case, it works and the game is better for its inclusion. Conversely, the new Borderlands isn't terrible because Anthony Burch jammed his politics in anywhere he could find room, it's terrible because the writing overall is cringeworthy meme references, the gameplay is stale, and the game runs like shit. And on the other end of how strongly incorporated a political idea can be, Civilization Beyond Earth has a political message, but you really have to dig for it and this is a good thing because it contributes relatively little to the atmosphere and nothing to the gameplay.

And Gone Home?

[Priran]

And Gone Home?

Isn't a game. It's a virtual art installation.

[NynJa]

so hilarious. she should've put some make up on cause men were gonna be watching it

Funny, because plenty of girls have openly admitted they wear makeup for them, not for men.

[Teryu]

It's internalized misogyny duh.

[Jefe]

Gone Home was 'GotY'... What a piece of shit it was lol.

[Priran]

Gone Home was 'GotY'... What a piece of shit it was lol.

Yeah well it's like that saying about judging a fish on its ability to climb a tree. If games journalists weren't corrupt pieces of shit who pushed it as 10/10 goty there'd probably be a lot less of a vitriolic reaction to it. People were literally tricked into buying it by people selling it as a "game". There are no ways to lose in Gone Home. There is no way for each individual player's experience to affect a unique narrative. There is only walking and reading diaries. It is not a game.

[Teryu]

By the way, as someone who never played the game and never will, someone showed me this bit of the OST:



Cemented my decision to never have anything to do with it.

[Cantih]

That was actual 90's music, that started local in Oregon.
I believe the lady from Portlandia was even in one or some of the bands.

[Kuya]

Gamergaters discuss SJWs.

Chief among the topics of discussion was the righteousness of Gamergate, which was how many attendees had first discovered 8chan. A young man in his very early 20s with a bowl cut, crooked rectangular glasses, and braces from New Jersey declared himself a sworn enemy of social justice warriors. (Like other gamergaters, he refers to their opponents exclusively as “SJWs.”) “The SJWs want to remove sexism from gaming, and at first that seems nice. But what does that mean? It means changing the game to fit their needs.” He believes that if the SJWs have their way, gaming will become “watered down, like today’s pop music.” So he has spent the past weeks emailing about a half dozen corporations like Samsung and Intel that run advertisements on websites that have been critical of Gamergate, and tweeting pro-Gamergate propaganda from a Twitter account he created for the purpose.

To be fair to the GGers though:

“Can I shake your hand again?” she said. Sarah had initially been worried about showing up because even she, an 8chan fan, had the idea that most 8channers were misogynistic creeps. But so far, she’d found everyone “super, super nice.”

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...trip-club.html

[Priran]

He doesn't have a drunkedly half-assed valid point though? Art offends.

Also hotwheels is a baller.

[Priran]

And for fun here's an infographic.

[Kuya]

Maybe, but it is nice to see that the staging ground for GamerGate and the founder of that staging ground do actually agree that fighting feminism in video games is actually part of what GamerGate is about and not just about supposed ethics in games journalism.

At this point I gotta ask, do we really need any more evidence that GG is not just about ethics in gaming journalism?

[tyven]

That was actual 90's music, that started local in Oregon.
I believe the lady from Portlandia was even in one or some of the bands.

and DC!

i fux with riot grrrl for sure. I mean not really, but I still respect it

[Abandon]

I'll join the military when we start fighting space bugs
humans i think i'll pass

pussy