GamerGate thread

[BaneTheBrawler]

Weedle Weedle Weedle

[Charismatic]

Weedle Weedle Weedle

My favorite part about the Weedle song is when they say Jack Thompson was right, lol.

[Tyrath]

Holy shit I'm going to Pax East next week, I'll be sure to wear a gas mask.

[Vandalhart]

Well the BO smell that I hear clings along the floor would have been the perfect cover to mass genocide.

[Ragnus]

Holy shit I'm going to Pax East next week, I'll be sure to wear a gas mask.

Well, I guess I'll know who ya are when I see ya getting dragged out of there by security.

[Tyrath]

Well, I guess I'll know who ya are when I see ya getting dragged out of there by security.

I'm brown so this might happen anyway.

[#686578]

Just say you're cosplaying as someone from a post apocalyptic nightmare world.

They'll assume you're STALKER or something, but we'll know you're actually from right now.

[Vandalhart]

Heard this on the radio and I thought it might be a good response to the song earlier in the thread. Mainly the chorus caught my attention.

Spoiler: show

Edit:

So, apparently, that guy that Brianna Wu was going on about driving to her house threatening to kill her or something was all a troll. How was it possible for her to get a restraining order when the person's name is not real?

[Ragnus]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/...b6I/story.html

Looks like Wu has officially pulled out of PAX and got the attention of a major newspaper for it.

Slight edit because I think I ask this here without getting my head chewed off: If the female characters in the background are ones she's created, why has it not been asked what she's really doing to change the view of females in video games? The largest thing I hear women complaining about is the unfair portrayal of women in video games and animated movies, but all three of Wu's characters are impossibly proportioned women wearing either skimpy and/or skin tight clothing. So is this something that's only sexist when men do it?

[Lyall]

Looks like Wu has officially pulled out of PAX and got the attention of a major newspaper for it.

Slight edit because I think I ask this here without getting my head chewed off: If the female characters in the background are ones she's created, why has it not been asked what she's really doing to change the view of females in video games? The largest thing I hear women complaining about is the unfair portrayal of women in video games and animated movies, but all three of Wu's characters are impossibly proportioned women wearing either skimpy and/or skin tight clothing. So is this something that's only sexist when men do it?

What are you trying to imply, shitlord? Stop being a misogynist and oppressing her and her game design.

In seriousness, you're exactly right. It's fine when Wu does it because reasons.

[Elcura]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/...b6I/story.html

Looks like Wu has officially pulled out of PAX and got the attention of a major newspaper for it.

Slight edit because I think I ask this here without getting my head chewed off: If the female characters in the background are ones she's created, why has it not been asked what she's really doing to change the view of females in video games? The largest thing I hear women complaining about is the unfair portrayal of women in video games and animated movies, but all three of Wu's characters are impossibly proportioned women wearing either skimpy and/or skin tight clothing. So is this something that's only sexist when men do it?

I noticed that too. For someone campaigning against this she sure does adhere to the look but maybe she realises that to make characters look interesting they actually have to look interesting and not downy realistic.

[Melena]

I'm actually amazed she's even gone to PAX before since Penny Arcade condones rape via dick wolves anyways.

[Tymon]

I'm actually amazed she's even gone to PAX before since Penny Arcade condones rape via dick wolves anyways.

http://i1.cpcache.com/product_zoom/9...dToSquare=true

[#686578]

cock coyotes
penis puppy
dick dogs
schlong schnauzer
willy wolf

[Gokku]

TLDR the 8 steps short formed from the comments section

Avoid the Smurfette principle (don't have just one female character in an ensemble cast, let alone one whose personality is more or less "girl" or "woman.")
"Lingerie is not armor" (Dress female characters as something other than sex objects.)
Have female characters of various body types
Don't over-emphasize female characters' rear ends, not any more than you would the average male character's.
Include more female characters of color.
Animate female characters to move the way normal women, soldiers or athletes would move.
Record female character voiceover so that pain sounds painful, not orgasmic
Include female enemies, but don't sexualize those enemies

havent seen anything about this posted yet
Anita 8 step program

[Ragnus]

I actually don't disagree with all 8 of those notions.

[Tymon]

Of course not, most of the stuff she talks about when she has a huge public audience is sensible. It's the crazy shit Jon McIntosh tells her to tweet out when she isn't doing that; that's the questionable stuff.

Tomb Raider (the new one) stands out to me as a really egregious offender on most of those later points. I really got tired of hearing Lara Croft have an orgasm every time her increasingly naked form get scratched/shot/pierced by arrows.

The only stuff that's policing is the "include more women, and make them colored" narrative. No, it is not racist or objectifying if you choose not to include either of those things in your game. I don't want a game to include over 9000 randomly generated females just to fill some imaginary quota. Actually I don't want any character like that. The developer gets to choose what they include in their game. I do agree the women that ARE there, if they are included, should be more realistically portrayed and not caricatures (unless the game itself is in that vein; many are, and often the men are too in this case..that's fine)

[Ragnus]

Tomb Raider (the new one) stands out to me as a really egregious offender on most of those later points. I really got tired of hearing Lara Croft have an orgasm every time her increasingly naked form get scratched/shot/pierced by arrows.

...Now that I really think about it, yeah, this is totally true.

I can totally see your point about the different races thing also. I remember a story on NPR not too long ago where they were interviewing an asian actress. One of the roles she lost was becuase the white male protagonist already had an asian best friend and the producers now wanted a black female for the white female protagonist.

[Elcura]

Most games do that though, but it doesn't actually make for an interesting character or game (and god forbid you do have a character who is sexual--because those don't exist in real life) in and of itself. I'd hate to see what would become of Bayonetta if all developers were so shit scared of this they toned downed something that is meant to be over the top. Dante is just as much as a parody and I like it all the same.

Just be respectful and/or reasonable within the context of your game. You can have lingerie armour or emphasis on body parts, just don't make it exclusive to females. People of colour needs to be universal but relevant. I wouldn't expect an abundance of racial variation in a remote village. Animation of female characters is art, so artistic licence needs to be considered (while doing something accurately is fine, it again doesn't make things more interesting or unique) within the context of the game and character.

The sound thing, again I would consider artistic licence. While the Tomb Raider thing is a fair point too far, I do think it was done to be more dramatic and tense. A loud cry or scream is generally more impactful than a constant whimper and whine punctuated by the occasional pain grunt (TR makes me laugh because it does both of those). If it sounds good then use it, even if it isn't entirely realistic. The sexualisation of enemies basically says no more lust demons, succubus, harpies or anything of the kind which again...depends on the game, depends on the setting and depends on the talent of the creator to make it look good. Look at the Brood Mother from DA and the Lust Demon? Two different kind of female enemy (well, Lust Demon moreso) but one is sexualised and one isn't. One is meant to be, so it is.

[archibaldcrane]

And no more male bosses who manspread on the throne - legs crossed only!