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    I must ask, but, is adding another stereotype really a positive thing? Why all the praise from feminists? The only way I could see it being more offensive is if they actually named her Butch. I get its a publicity stunt but it almost feels like a "Lets see how offensive we can get and have them still praise us for diversity". I mean, honestly I wish I could find that comic about how to be a shit /(something)/ artist, where it basically goes into all the generic things. Stocky build, short hair in a weird color, glasses/piercings/tattoes, unique snowflake etcetc. They almost literally ripped it from that satirical comic.

    I personally don't care but I can't see how this is being praised by feminists, I mean, they're almost mocking you.

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    Doesn't really matter.

    But to complain that 1 out of 6 female characters does not look feminine is absurd. You still got 5.

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    But that Complaint is what prompted the new character. It wasn't that there wasn't variety it's that a sjw exerted enough power to prompt the creation of one. It's marketing gold really just like the devs who put Anita in, l bet you they had huge spike in sales with all the media.

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    Nope. The kind of people who bitch about this sort of thing don't actually buy or play these games, nor is there ever enough for them to be satisfied.

    Skip to 25:52.


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    Character is pretty bland tbh

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    I'm gonna lol if the game phones home and reports to blizzard which characters get used, and no one plays the fat fuck butch russian.

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    Who gives a fuck?

    Does she have interesting mechanics and compelling gameplay? If so, she'll get played. If not, she won't.

    It's some petty ass shit to decide not to play her because you don't like what you think might be the reasons that she maybe has a particular design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clash Perez View Post
    Who gives a fuck?

    Does she have interesting mechanics and compelling gameplay? If so, she'll get played. If not, she won't.

    It's some petty ass shit to decide not to play her because you don't like what you think might be the reasons that she maybe has a particular design.
    Which is exactly why a lot of people are having issues with the feminist agenda towards video games.

    Studies have shown that players don't care about the sex of a character, the body type, the race, the sexual orientation or any of that crap. They just care about if the game is good, or the character's abilities benefit their success in playing the game.

    The problem is, that the people with the feminist agenda are claiming this to be false and spinning the results of their own studies to perpetuate this bullshit about it causing sexual violence/stereotypes. They're very much working in an "if" world. The actual numbers show that as video games became more popular, violent and sexual crimes reduced. If video games were making people more misogynistic and violent, it would make sense that these crimes would have gone up.

    I don't have links to the studies mentioned above, but I've seen them in Sargon's videos. I can go through them when I have some time and snip out where he talks about them.

    An excerpt from that article linked:
    Interesting side note. Notice how people complain about Peach being kidnapped and not Mario? Despite Mario being damselled repeatedly? Mario is Missing, Luigi’s Mansion 1 and 2, Super Princess Peach and I’m sure I’m missing more. Apparently Mario is immune to being defined by being damselled, despite him having less of a personality than Peach does (seriously, Mario has no personality).
    The whole reason it's not an issue with Mario is because he is male. That's the main reason why it doesn't matter to the same people that are toting about gender equality or trying to change the tropes you see in games. Men don't matter, because you know, the patriarchy.

    I know I'm getting borderline MRA with that statement, but there is a lot of things out there that that seem to be punishments to men just because they were born male.

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    The tumblr article that was linked has at least one thing I agree with 100%. Those redesigns that she posted are indeed God fucking awful.

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    You wouldn't know that though because you've demonstrably never picked up a book nor educated yourself on the matter. Let me guess, overweight housewife?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    I'm gonna lol if the game phones home and reports to blizzard which characters get used, and no one plays the fat fuck butch russian.
    Have you never played tf2?


    She will get played, guaranteed.

    I agree with three article towards those who botch about her existence. I have said it before, I have zero issues with adding female characters like that. I only take issues with those that get upset with the existence of other female body types. Just make the game good, and I with fucking play it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandalhart View Post
    Studies have shown that players don't care about the sex of a character, the body type, the race, the sexual orientation or any of that crap. They just care about if the game is good, or the character's abilities benefit their success in playing the game.
    I don't think this is entirely true. Characters of varied type and background make for a more vivid and compelling story, and story immersion is a big part of why I enjoy a lot of games. Storytelling and gameplay are both important aspects in any game, at least for me. I doubt I'm in the minority.

    And if you're hunting through Sargon videos on my behalf, don't bother. I can't handle the constant droning condescension he brings to every video I've come across so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    So, out of 5 scantaly clad women, they make one a butch woman and suddenly sjws wana take over the world?

    Makes sense.
    BUT KUYA! SEXY PEOPLE ARE BEING ERASED!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xno Kappa View Post
    I google my name and a bunch of random people come up. I think I'm in the clear!
    I google my name and gay porn comes up

    life is terrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clash Perez View Post
    I don't think this is entirely true. Characters of varied type and background make for a more vivid and compelling story, and story immersion is a big part of why I enjoy a lot of games. Storytelling and gameplay are both important aspects in any game, at least for me. I doubt I'm in the minority.

    And if you're hunting through Sargon videos on my behalf, don't bother. I can't handle the constant droning condescension he brings to every video I've come across so far.
    I think it depends on the game type. I do get turned off if I don't like the look of my toon in an mmo. If you are playing tf2 or overwatch for the characters and story, you are probably playing the wrong game.

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    Yeah, if I can't make a visually appealing person in an MMO, I'll hate it. Pretty much in every western RPG I'll make a female because the males usually look way too fucked. The chicks are typically softer looking and have better hair options.

    @Overwatch I think it's stupid to boycott the russian chick. If anything people should camp her or the groups that have her on their team should quarantine her so she gets FF'd all the time. I just think it's funny how people are like "BEST REPRESENTATION OF WOMAN. EVER!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koul View Post

    If anything people should camp her or the groups that have her on their team should quarantine her so she gets FF'd all the time. !"
    Because...?

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    Patriarchy.

    I'm all for diversity in character design, especially female design, but that new character looks bland and boring as fuck. The original females looked much more interesting from the get go. Baby steps sure, but this one seems way too forced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Salodin View Post
    Patriarchy.

    I'm all for diversity in character design, especially female design, but that new character looks bland and boring as fuck. The original females looked much more interesting from the get go. Baby steps sure, but this one seems way too forced.
    I think that's a matter of personal taste. I personally like the character design and i like that there is a conscious attempt at more character diversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    I think it depends on the game type. I do get turned off if I don't like the look of my toon in an mmo. If you are playing tf2 or overwatch for the characters and story, you are probably playing the wrong game.
    I think Nomura commented on this, saying he feels the main characters always have to be designed with sex appeal because players are identify better and like characters that are attractive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ksandra View Post
    Have you never played tf2?


    She will get played, guaranteed.

    I agree with three article towards those who botch about her existence. I have said it before, I have zero issues with adding female characters like that. I only take issues with those that get upset with the existence of other female body types. Just make the game good, and I with fucking play it.
    Im not sure what your point is? Doesnt every character model in tf2 have their own unique stats and skills?

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