FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Qeomash]

I did a Labyrinth of the Ancients last night. Most of my party was relatively new, including both healers being brand new to the dungeon.

Six out of eight of my party died to Behemoth's meteor. Twice.

[gattsuru]

Speaking of this, why is it called "feint"? This has been bugging me for a while. None of the definitions really seem to fit.

I *think* it's a reference to the attack pattern. The initial, ground-target-marked, burst doesn't do that much damage. It's really the follow-up blasts that can one-shot you and have the nasty debuff. If you were to treat it like normal AOEs during Primals or Ultima, where the explosions spots are safe after their first boom, it's easy to imagine folk stepping out of the blast radius, then jumping back in and bam.

[Corrderio]

get kicked from WoD for going in belly when alliance full of OF level players make it clear only B is to go in. This is after wiping twice

carboncoat not worth the madness

This is one reason why I wish that ABC shit wasn't real. Back when it came out if whatever alliance sucked at belly phase, we'd send in another group to get the job done. Now you try that shit and people will whine "But B is belly".

Anyway...

Ninjas, quit fucking using Doton on single targets.

[Niiro]

Make Doton only available in PvP.

Shit was kind of useful before the NIN nerf, but now it's so situational we're better off without it if only to keep the stupids from using it improperly.

[Andradi]

Unless I'm mathing this wrong, 3+ targets is "so situational"?

[Niiro]

3+ targets that will....

-stay in the AoE for the duration (tank has to move a lot to dodge stuff? welp....)
-live long enough for the effect to matter
-aren't better off being focused down individually to lessen healer/tank load

If the mobs take any less than 7 of the 8 total DoTs tics for any reason (moved out of effect, died too soon) then you were better off using Katon.

Ultimately it doesn't really matter much anyway, it's not like NIN is ever the job you go to for AoE damage.

[Kaisha]

Don't you also need to Kassetsu the Doton on 3+ to make it worth it as well?

I wouldn't mind toying with NIN more but said fuck it whenever 2.5 landed and suddenly mudra lag became unreal.

[Grey Jorildyn]

Part of it is tanks knowing to keep mobs in the doton and also what the other dps is in party (for dungeons let's say). If there's a well-geared, good blm, it's harder to justify doton. If it's a mnk, bit easier, etc.

[Niiro]

Don't you also need to Kassetsu the Doton on 3+ to make it worth it as well?

I wouldn't mind toying with NIN more but said fuck it whenever 2.5 landed and suddenly mudra lag became unreal.

Kassatsu doesn't increase Doton's damage any more than it does any other ninjutsu.

[Arthars]

doton only useful in PvP at most in the flag area/bottlenecks

people casting it in dungeon AOE makes me wanna drown a kitten as well -_-

[Corrderio]

doton only useful in PvP at most in the flag area/bottlenecks

people casting it in dungeon AOE makes me wanna drown a kitten as well -_-

You'll probably hate me then since in terms of burns, I usually put it down as my opener Ninjutsu when I have large pulls >.>

[Arthars]

it should not last that long to be better than katon

if it does.....then your tank need to pull smaller groups w/o a BLM >.>

but i understand your point, in DF roulette you cant control wat the others do, thats also 1 way doton can be useful

aside from doton, i should say that BLMs who dont fire II/flare and brd who dont AOE when they see more than 3 mobs are in the same league of "drowning kitty" worthy

[Corrderio]

Normally my rotation was Katon > Crit Doton > Katon if stuff is alive long enough for the 3rd. Though I haven't done much DF on NIN in awhile, mostly started doing that on PLD again just to get it done and over with. But normally when I'm on NIN I get stuck with BRDs it feels like.

[Deadgye]

If the group of enemies will be alive for the entire doton, it's better then katon. That's when you use it. Why the enemies are alive long enough doesn't matter.

[Kaisha]

[Egon]

This times a million.

[Greedouw]

Began to play around with my relic again... been waiting for the "Tower of Power" start NPC to pop for about 1.5 hours now...

Fuck you SE

[Rehn]

Doing lost city for zodiac key item. First boss: I get devoured, and I died with the maw at 94%. So I get a raise, and I wonder to myself: would they be able to get the next maw? After sch throws me a raise, I wait for it. SCH gets munched next, and she proceeds to die as well with the maw still at 89%.

The stupid BRD says nothing after it. The stupid PLD said "sry couldnt target it." And I'm just sitting here wondering how people log into xiv, much less try to play it. Unfortunately I took the raise right before the boss devours the PLD, so being the well-meaning person I am, I free him and proceed to beat the boss.

My shoulder hurts from carrying dumb people. And no, there was no soldiery bonus message.

[Koul]

This times a million.

God. This.

or how /nod doesn't exist. But when you type /yes the emote is "you nod" just. fucking. arhaglajksdf;lajkserlkads;lf

[Niiro]

On a similar note to /yes being "nod", /no isn't just "shakes head" it's "disagrees with".

In XI /sigh and /no were my most common greetings to people I knew, both were taken from me -_-