FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Jem]

For reference at Chocobo Racing timesink. I'm at ~650-700 races iirc and just started Pedigree 6. Which initially I thought, oh that's not too bad at ~4 min per race (including queue time). But that's actually 43-47 hours.

Although I suppose the flipside of that is: ~90-100 hours to reach top level / top pedigree choco racing. Which isn't that bad really. It's only because we have a tendency of wanting everything now and wanting to bumrush it straight to cap then complain there's nothing else to do. Essentially 1 hour a day in a 3 month update cycle to reach the cap.

I think that's actually semi-reasonable as long as you don't go in with the mindset of 'Must cap out ASAP!'

[Yuri-G]

Not once, but twice have I been left to die by a healer in the final boss of copperbell hm for my SMN animus book.

are you not dodging AoEs? because if you're not dodging AoEs I'ma let your ass die. just saying.

[Sephiroth]

For reference at Chocobo Racing timesink. I'm at ~650-700 races iirc and just started Pedigree 6. Which initially I thought, oh that's not too bad at ~4 min per race (including queue time). But that's actually 43-47 hours.

Although I suppose the flipside of that is: ~90-100 hours to reach top level / top pedigree choco racing. Which isn't that bad really. It's only because we have a tendency of wanting everything now and wanting to bumrush it straight to cap then complain there's nothing else to do. Essentially 1 hour a day in a 3 month update cycle to reach the cap.

I think that's actually semi-reasonable as long as you don't go in with the mindset of 'Must cap out ASAP!'

1 hour a day is a lot to dedicate to one task for people who work and perhaps play only 4 hours per week night at best, less at worst. Especially when everything else requires that same dedication. In reality you might only want to do it a few hours per week, which drags it on for 7 or 8 months. That's just to reach the point where you can enjoy the fruits of your efforts. By then there will be an expansion and better content to be playing, or the content will be obsolete or no longer the max level you were originally aiming for.

[Lucavi]

The time it takes to P9 in choco racing doesn't bother me at all because it took longer to get SS rank chocobos of various colors in FFVII and there's no way I'd ever expect a MMO to take LESS time to do something than a single player RPG. Anyone expecting that is just fucked in the head or has a very, very short memory. That's just how MMOs work and I'm not sure why people expected SE to implement a choco racing system that you'd be able to cap out within 10 hours or something. You'd be done with that a lot faster than if the current system was in place: You'd pedigree every bird within an hour's time (completely possible to do at lower ranks, provided you're good enough to win constantly) and wouldn't even be able to afford the cost of enough RNG coverings to have a shot at a decent stat line.

I will, however, second the RNG involved with coverings. Blowing 30-40k every rank 40 bird in hopes of not going down in stats is annoying as hell, especially when that doesn't even factor in proper training (and you can't craft Grade 3 food before people start chiming in). It gets better once you're already at P9 breeding your own birds together, but by then you're maxing the hell out of one bird with 2.75k seal food, so you wind up putting all your winnings into maintaining the bird.

None of this would be a problem if not for the absurd costs of the vanity items. A serious choco racer attempting to accrue even 300k for the turtle is a paradox within itself: you're putting what you earn back into your bird; there's barely any left for vanity. I picked up the gambler's barding first on the server and everything else has gone back in to being the best and researching the systems. A MGP increase is coming on racing, but I wouldn't need more MGP if RNG wasn't as hilarious as it currently is: completely randomized stats on all pedigree coverings - pedigree rank means nothing save for the probability of inheriting a higher grade skill - and then a 25% chance to obtain any one particular star rating on a stat, provided it appears once.

With SE planning on implementing additional saucer content right down the road, why the hell did they see fit to have such crazy high prices on the higher end stuff?

[Taruina]

are you not dodging AoEs? because if you're not dodging AoEs I'ma let your ass die. just saying.

The aoe that is 2 seconds long and does 900 damage? Get out.

Also believing that you don't have to aoe heal through impact roar (unavoidable aoe just in-case you weren't aware) is what caused the deaths.

This is also after sprinting around and self healing, dpsing my own add down, and dealing with crystal feeding because autism.

[Jem]

1 hour a day is a lot to dedicate to one task for people who work and perhaps play only 4 hours per week night at best, less at worst. Especially when everything else requires that same dedication. In reality you might only want to do it a few hours per week, which drags it on for 7 or 8 months. That's just to reach the point where you can enjoy the fruits of your efforts. By then there will be an expansion and better content to be playing, or the content will be obsolete or no longer the max level you were originally aiming for.

Yes but content isn't designed to be fully cleared by casual players within each 3 month update though. Non-casuals / semi-casuals are going to be in a position to Ped 9 a Chocobo in relatively quick fashion. Casuals it won't matter for because they already have tons of shit to do.

Even a semi-casual is going to be fully caught up. Like before this update the only things I wasn't caught up on was max PVP rank (because of queue times) and Beastman dailies (because I didn't care about them) and relic (I have Dreadwyrm so didn't bother). Everything else I was caught up on and outside the first 2-3 weeks after a major update my play schedule is 'Log in for FCOB, clear it, log out'. I didn't even bother capping Poetics each week this time around.

[Yuri-G]

The aoe that is 2 seconds long and does 900 damage? Get out.

Also believing that you don't have to aoe heal through impact roar (unavoidable aoe just in-case you weren't aware) is what caused the deaths.

This is also after sprinting around and self healing, dpsing my own add down, and dealing with crystal feeding because autism.

I was just joking... I haven't even gotten to hard mode yet.

was your healer SCH? AoEs are annoying on SCH... Succor is amazing but requires a better foreknowledge of the fight than Medica. not that this is any excuse.

[Jem]

Also here's the real complaint about Chocobo Breeding

You cannot check what a choco will come out as before trashing your old choco.

So right now I have a 4/4/4/1/2 Choco. I also have a second registration which has the potential to be better but with the slim chance of being a lot worse. I have to trash my first choco before I can see how the second choco rolls out though.

Basically they need to give us more than 1 racing chocobo slot at once.

[Taruina]

I was just joking... I haven't even gotten to hard mode yet.

was your healer SCH? AoEs are annoying on SCH... Succor is amazing but requires a better foreknowledge of the fight than Medica. not that this is any excuse.

I main SCH and can out dps the party while keeping them alive. Physick is more than sufficient for healing low party members.

The mere fact is that I hate this dungeon like hell and the general pool of DutyFindtards.

[BerenTebogo]

Got AK normal run for Zodiac atma. Pop in with 3 ~ilvl50 new players who are there together on their first time. PLD has an ilvl40 sword, I'm in there on HA staff BLM.

Despite every fiber of my being saying "drop. drop. drop. drop." I stay, and decide to teach them AK. 1/1 first boss, cool. 1/2 demon wall, even cooler. Still takes forever because we can only pull one pack at a time and there are only two options for me: 1) do absolutely nothing 2) BLM tank with i45 WHM to heal me.

We get to anatabogota and shit just hits the fan. Dying to tethers, dying to catastrophe, risking not killing fast enough vs. me constantly pulling hate, etc. So I decide to teach everyone a little bit about their jobs. Ride medica 2 + what shroud does and why you should be using it, etc. I tell the PLD that as soon as he gets in position, he should pop cover on me and just keep doing his combo until I type "/" which is when he should provoke, in conjunction with teaching the NIN to open with TA from behind. First two attempts at this fail miserably. Provoke too early, forgot to cover, etc. 3rd time though I manage to burn it down to about 65-70% solo before first catastrophe and we hobble through to a win.

Do I get an atma for my trouble? Any drops whatsover? Anything at all for my 65 minutes in AK normal in 2015?

Absolutely not. Fuck you, game.

[Niiro]

No that they're worth shit, but it occurs to me that first time tome bonuses should be per new person in the group.

Tomes are still worthless, just a thought tho.

[Corrderio]

Hell, that's all it was for me after the first week. Teleport to zone, do scratch off. If it's 5 minutes~ until a GATE, play Cuff-a-Cur until it pops, then go back to doing whatever.

Is there a mechanic to Cuff-A-Curr I'm not aware of when it comes to MGP?

[Shaano]

It's the easiest imo. Nothing random like basketball, moogle, and tower is too fast for me.

[garudyne]

Yeah, it's the easiest of the mini games if you have the timing down.

Moogle is also relatively easy. Best returns come from Monster Toss but you have to GIT GUD. x_x

[Lyall]

Is there a mechanic to Cuff-A-Curr I'm not aware of when it comes to MGP?

What the others said. It's the easiest to play well while still watching Youtube.

[The Stig]

Do I get an atma for my trouble? Any drops whatsover? Anything at all for my 65 minutes in AK normal in 2015?

Did you get 3 commendations at least?

[gattsuru]

Titan Story Mode for the Daily Roulette, yay! The tank's wearing level 20ish DRG gear, crap! The healer has a Novus weapon, well, it can't go /that/ bad.

It was that bad. It was worse.

Oh, god, it was worse. The tank was, of course, terrible, starting with losing aggro to the basic NIN rotation, and then the other DPS's egi pulling aggro when I held to plain autoattacks. But the SMN wasn't impressive, and worst of all the WHM sucked. Not "stood in landslide" sucked, but went between entire stomps without casting a Medica, never using Cleric Stance even when attacking a Gaol, either did not use or did not have Swiftcast, standing in Mountain Buster sucked.

Nearly took as long running that trial as it would have to get through Qarn NM.

[BerenTebogo]

Did you get 3 commendations at least?

I did but fuck commendations lol

[Yuri-G]

THM last night was spamming Blizzard all day errday.

not a big fail, because hey, low-level duty roulette so fuck it. but come on. that is almost the exact opposite of how you should be playing your job.

[garudyne]

One time someone just did Fire 3s as their rotation before maybe one or two Blizzards... then more Fire 3 in Stone Vigil. x_x