FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Corrderio]

Logging in today and pretty much losing all my interest in the game within the first 15 minutes. All I do now is endure the stupidity of LotA/ST because of "lolol fuck mechanics" wipes for my raid weekly, which will soon be another thing I ignore since after this week is done I'll have all my IW upgraded.

Heavensward is 3 months away and in all honesty, I have no faith in Yoshida. I'm still putting money on Alex being a rehash of CoB, which will start my issue of FCs and how unnecessary they are in the game at full cycle again.

[Dammerung]

which will start my issue of FCs and how unnecessary they are in the game at full cycle again.

Why do you even care that FC should be a thing? FC is housing and buff, use linkshells to expand association.

[Corrderio]

I guess it's more of a sense of companionship in a way. Having a group with the same mindset to build/expand with, etc. The issue is the game has pretty much no content designed around that unless you consider BCOB that kind of content.

[Kiarax]

I have a group with the same mindset to run and learn shit with and it's a linkshell. If you're not already running FCoB you also don't even need to be picky about loot. We had a bunch of people who just don't care enough to join/make a static so we just do 1 chest clears for people for fun (or even 0 if getting 4 uncleared people is out of the question). They literally wouldn't be touching coil much like you if not for that so they don't care if they're getting slightly less loot. I can understand losing desire to play or whatever if you burn out (especially having cleared all the content) but it sounds like you actually do have an interest in doing Final Coil (and T9? IDK If you got that done yet). At the very least it shouldn't be an issue at all finding runs next week once the lockout is gone.

[Icarian]

I've never got MNK gloves/ring/neck (been clearing them since release), and 4 of our 6 weapons were bows , yep, hope the loot system in heavensward gets rid of this.

[Xerlic]

I guess it's more of a sense of companionship in a way. Having a group with the same mindset to build/expand with, etc. The issue is the game has pretty much no content designed around that unless you consider BCOB that kind of content.

This is the issue a lot of former XI players run into in XIV. There is pretty much 0 companionship in this game outside of coil statics. I have never interacted with a good 75% of my FC.

[Taint]

This is the issue a lot of former XI players run into in XIV. There is pretty much 0 companionship in this game outside of coil statics. I have never interacted with a good 75% of my FC.

So very true.

I have FFXI Friend LS to chat with.
Coil LS to play with on Tuesdays.

The rest of my FC/LSs are for hunt announcements and the occasional fishing achievement.

No MMO will ever have the community like FFXI had, its not possible anymore.

[gaira]

it's up to you to make your fc and ls what you want, just like it was in xi. my fc has 3-4 raid groups that are primarily statics, but can cover for each other if someone can't make it and needs a sub. they also have silly events that are just to hang out with each other and have fun. then there's getting all the new people clears on old ex primals, t5, etc.

not arguing that xiv community for clearing content is equal (there's simply not enough things that require you to rely on others because of duty finder), but just that it doesn't have to be entirely the way you guys describe if you don't want it to be.

[Detzu]

In my FC we use TS a lot even outside of raids. The only thing that can break our companionship is actually coil and its lockout system.

[Niiro]

So the only obstacle is the only end-game content in the game.

Huh.

[Elcura]

not arguing that xiv community for clearing content is equal (there's simply not enough things that require you to rely on others because of duty finder), but just that it doesn't have to be entirely the way you guys describe if you don't want it to be.

Is this a thing? I want a friendly active FC community so I'm going to make it happen! I think you're being very generous with that.

[Niiro]

If the structure of the game does nothing to foster a healthy end-game community (if anything it opposes it) you can't simply will one into existence.

[Rocl]

Is this a thing? I want a friendly active FC community so I'm going to make it happen! I think you're being very generous with that.

yo i did it

i prob chat w/ my fc about as much as i did with niggas in LS in XI; the only difference is i use an LS instead of tells/voice chat for the additional bullshitting so voice chat is strictly raids instead of social like it was in XI

[Detzu]

So the only obstacle is the only end-game content in the game.

Huh.

Not the endgame itself but its lockout system. We are not big enough to make two groups and we resort to make some nice people sit out.

[Niiro]

.....yes, that was my point.

The lockout is part of the content, ergo the content is the obstacle.

[Taint]

The coil lockout wrecks the community.

MrHappy ish guides wrecks the community.

Being able to solo the entire story wrecks the community.

The game telling you exactly how to do each mission wrecks the community.

Young gamers expecting everything on a platter wrecks the community.


They aren't all necessarily bad things but they take away from the "ask a friend for help" aspect that builds relationships.

[Twilight Sky]

They aren't all necessarily bad things but they take away from the "ask a friend for help" aspect that builds relationships.

That is now a distant bygone era that died years ago. Doesn't exist in FFXI anymore either. We have to adapt, that's all we can do.

[Eidle]

Young gamers expecting everything on a platter wrecks the community.

I blame WoW and their looking for raid. People will come from WoW or know about WoW's LFR, and think FF14's DF is the same thing.

You can go into LFR, can do the end game content for slightly less poweful raid gear, basically ignore mechanics or get carried by the 24 other people, can finish most LFR bosses with more than half the raid dead. You cannot do this in FF14 DF.

[Kaixin]

yo i did it

i prob chat w/ my fc about as much as i did with niggas in LS in XI; the only difference is i use an LS instead of tells/voice chat for the additional bullshitting so voice chat is strictly raids instead of social like it was in XI

Another thing that worked for me connecting to the other statics in my FC was streaming. Each static had at least one person who set up a stream during raids. Once one person started it other people got interested in doing it too. Teams raided at different times, so it was fun to poke my head in sometimes and cheerleader other squads going at it. Since you're seeing the action, reading the chat, and hearing the TS, you're essentially there. That way more than just 8 people can take part of all the goofy stuff of raiding that makes friends out of strangers.

[Jem]

This is the issue a lot of former XI players run into in XIV. There is pretty much 0 companionship in this game outside of coil statics. I have never interacted with a good 75% of my FC.

This. So, so much this.

The only reason the people in our LS are so tight-knit/talk outside the coil static is because we all came together as a group from XI and had played for 5-10+ years together and had meet-ups every year. Anyone not in the static, we generally carry through Coil when possible.

Outside of people I already knew from XI, there's only 1 other group of people I talk to. A coil static who invited me to their LS to socialize after I filled in a few times on progression content (after I had full cleared, so they knew it was purely to help them). And that required me offering as a random act of kindness when they were asking for a fill-in on a PVP shell.

There's no real community feel outside of coil statics unless you already knew people. Most other LS'es have too many members to form strong bonds with people. Or they are Hunt/PVP/etc and outside of acheievments or announcements people don't socialize.

Part of the problem is also that a lot of people want you to join a FC rather than an LS. And since you can only have one, it cockblocks attempts to socialize outside your own FC.