FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Eidle]

I'm sort of in that boat. I mostly just ignore it because I don't like dealing with the bullshit of keeping statics together and constantly re-training people and all that (my luck here hasn't been stellar) but the root of the problem is my extremely erratic real-life schedule that makes it difficult to schedule statics anyway. Like, I literally don't know from week to week whether I'll have the same night free or not. So I've just started not bothering.

This is basically why I welcome these heavy nerfs. I just can't sit at my computer un-interrupted with my headphones on to learn encounters anymore. I just don't have that kind of lifestyle. I have a wife and kids, and I'm not going to be telling them to back off because dads gotta play video games. I need to be able to get up sporadically to attend to things, I also one night might not feel like playing, and I don't want that decision to fuck over 7 other people. So I just stick to the grindy solo content and get the decent gear and hit up the coils a patch late which is NBD to me, I'm not thirsty for the challenge, or the status of being in the current top tier.

[Raldo]

Similar issues here. FCOB has been a clusterfuck schedule due to two members with varied schedules, and one person with a schedule that doesn't vary but is different every other week (only has weekends free every other weekend, Thursday only free every other week, etc.).

Also, some people in the group want to raid more hours a week than others, people get repped on days/times when certain people can't show up (and the repped get upset), etc. Fuck man, I'm not setting my alarm on a weekend just so I can play a video game, that's retarded.

Ah well, the writing's on the wall for my team. Shit blew up last night, and I don't think the pieces will get put back together. We lasted as a team for a full year, I'm pretty impressed at that. I look forward to all the extra free time in my future. Maybe I'll finally get the time to finish my Nexuses (nexi? noxus?).

[Rocl]

This is me and it sucks. Echo/nerfs are right up my alley. I thrive on the salty tears of the WORLD FIRSTS.

Let's be fair here, I doubt the world firsts care. They got theirs.

[Kirbyprime]

Eh, world firsts don't care, they'd probably care more if savage was nerfed ( no, they still won't ). People who were part of the last to clear content pre-nerf probably are more likely to complain.

[Damane]

fuck this 8 man shit, couldnt they go for a 6 man pt content. keeping a group of 8 players together and finding raid times that go with everyone is just nearly fuckign impossible.

[Eeeks]

fuck this 8 man shit, couldnt they go for a 6 man pt content. keeping a group of 8 players together and finding raid times that go with everyone is just nearly fuckign impossible.

God I hope SE eventually figures this out. I feel like this problem (along with other issues in similar veins) encourages the movement of dedicated raiders from the small servers to the few large servers. On the large servers, dedicated raid teams at least have a chance at recruiting experienced, quality replacements if needed.

And I say this as someone who doesn't even bother with the top-tier raid content. I share Narol's and Eidle's sentiments on the matter.

[Raldo]

I'm curious what setup you'd expect for that number. 1 tank 1 healer 4 dps?

[Damane]

God I hope SE eventually figures this out. I feel like this problem (along with other issues in similar veins) encourages the movement of dedicated raiders from the small servers to the few large servers. On the large servers, dedicated raid teams at least have a chance at recruiting experienced, quality replacements if needed.

And I say this as someone who doesn't even bother with the top-tier raid content. I share Narol's and Eidle's sentiments on the matter.

the best solution would have been to make things doable with a flexible pt size of 5-8 people, so you can enter everytime either if someone misses or if all are there. i cant believe FFXI did something in that regard much better then 14... delve is the perfect example 3-18 players, mob HP scales with amount of players. FFS. This is so fuckign bullshit, 1 raid static member misses and everythign is poop.

[Damane]

I'm curious what setup you'd expect for that number. 1 tank 1 healer 4 dps?

2 tanks 2 healers 2 dps, if you go with 8 scale HP of the mob up and fill in the blanks with more DPS.

and lockout is the dumbest thing ever since you cant fill in the gaps if 1 of your FC statics is missing 1 member... This design is so fucking dumb seriously ¬.¬

[Eanae]

2 tanks 2 healers 2 dps, if you go with 8 scale HP of the mob up and fill in the blanks with more DPS.

and lockout is the dumbest thing ever since you cant fill in the gaps if 1 of your FC statics is missing 1 member... This design is so fucking dumb seriously ¬.¬

Congratulations you just fucked thousands of dps over because there is not a 1:1:1 ratio of tank/healer/dps. There should be mixed numbers content but top tier content should not be 6 man.

[Charismatic]

Congratulations you just fucked thousands of dps over because there is not a 1:1:1 ratio of tank/healer/dps.

Boo hoo?
Fortunately there's class switching.

[Ratatapa]

2 10 wins 2 times the same drops

Nin gloves/healer boots

[The47thSen]

What do you mean by can't? Like, physically is not able to, or what?

Physically, probably. A lot of the ones I know that really struggle to learn content like this are in their 40~50s. But it's also a lifestyle issue. They don't have the kind of time to sit down and really dedicate themselves to learning the encounters. As hard as the EX primals are, they're beatable after about an hour of learning or so. Maybe a couple sessions. Coil however, requires much more dedication. 2~3 hours a day everyday, multiple days a week, over an extended period of time. And that's not including the time required outside of the game, reading up strategies or going over video playbacks looking for areas where they can improve.

If they did nothing but raid then sure, it's totally doable. But these folks are the definition of casual, they may get on for 3~4 hours a day, but half the time they're AFK. When they're around, they do a bit of this and a bit of that. Run a couple roulettes, work on other classes, idle around and chat. Just stuff. You can't even PUG with a playstyle like this. PUGging often involves just sitting around for a couple hours waiting for a party to fill, only to disband after half an hour to an hour.

It's fine to say that the content isn't for them when it's initially released. But now, half a year later, when most of the people wanting to raid have already had their hearts fulfilled? Sure, go ahead, nerf it down to something like an EX primal. Let the other folks have their try at it.

[Niiro]

God I hope SE eventually figures this out.

Figure it out?

They're banking on this shit, they know damn fucking well that making people split into 8 person groups with the lockout will slow 99% of the playerbase to a fucking crawl.

They need that shit to stretch what little content there is as much as possible.

[Rocl]

servers shitting themselves again RIP

[Kiarax]

Was on the last damn boss I needed for my poetic boots, rip.

[Silenka]

I hope they use all the money from the cash shop to fix the damn servers.
It's odd how concerned they are with player welfare nowadays but still let this happen on a constant basis.

[Deadgye]

Was on the last damn boss I needed for my poetic boots, rip.

Likewise, on fucking kraken and the game just pooped itself. (Except I still needed another 35 poetry after, THEN I have my weapons.)

I've never even see error 5006 before.

[Grey Jorildyn]

I don't get why they don't just have the nerfed version as normal mode, the standard as hard mode and the savage as savage. You unlock as your clear the first mode and work toward savage for better gear. Separate by 5 ilvl per tier and be fucking done with it.

SE has a medal system only for fates. Why not put it in dungeons too? Platinum a dungeon, get more gil and loot.

SE has a normal/hard/extreme system for primals. Why isn't it also used for raids? Too many tiers and no consistency. Just leads to bitching at the end of the day by the elitist minority.

Implement consistent tiers for raiding, primals, and normalize the rubric for scoring success in casual content. Then they don't have to go back and nerf mechanics, just add echo and call it a day.

[Corrderio]

OH HAI ERROR 5006! IT'S BEEN FAR, FAR TOO LONG!

Seriously, was about to down Diabolos then the server shat out on me...