FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Seravi Edalborez]

I got Steps last night without a new person bonus. Why the fuck are we here.

Meant it was easy at least.

[Churchill]

Yeah this game will never have its API released nor will there ever be an official DPS meter so good luck with that.

[Hellfury]

I really think a lot of these people could be shame into being better if there was some sort of performance indicator at the end of dungeons (DPS / Damage Taken / Etc.). I think most of them are oblivious to just how bad they are and just how large the gap is so don't think the problem is with them.

While I agree that this would probably be a good tool, you know all the brats would just ragequit when they repeatedly see poor results, rather than step it up, which is probably why SE daren't release such tools themselves. (Because there's no way, not even in SE world, such a solution would take so long)

[Twilight Sky]

Maybe you just get the dungeon you hate the most. If I'm on MNK and get Satasha HM just fucking end me.

The only thing I hate about that dungeon is the last boss.

I'll either get Satasha HM, or Hull breaker Isle. Basically anything involving the Kraken in some way(including Satasha normal). Now hull breaker isle.. that whole dungeon can DIAF but at least the Kraken there is easier to deal with.

[Nitsuki]

I'm starting to believe we'll never see an official parser, ever. Bad players will still continue to be bad.

[lolwut]

Got the guildhest with the voidsent that reraise if you don't kill them at the same time. Nin and I were lowering each mob as common sense would dictate and then changing targets, but the Blm kept killing our weakened targets despite us spamming the chat log for him to stop, and the healer kept putting aero on them. After a couple wipes we just stood around until we could kick the Blm, told the Whm to stop aeroing, and attempted it with 3. Whm proceeds to cast NOTHING but stone and we all die again.

Nin and I talk a minute about the level of retardation in the game and leave.

Also, I have never had a Library run without people I know where the party wasn't awful at the lock mechanic, and I end up tanking multiple voidsent every. single. summon. after the first where I can just run around the circle myself.

[Niiro]

They really need to make the DF categorize Melee DPS, Ranged DPS, and Casters as 3 separate groups.

The queues times as BRD for dungeons are just......ugh, they were always pretty bad but with MCH added to the mix too it's just atrocious.

(I don't know for certain that all ranged DPS are lumped together but given how rarely I seem to be paired with BLM/SMN on BRD it certainly seems that way)

Also, BRDs that still spam Wide Volley.

I wonder if they're confused as to why they're not getting any procs or if they're just terrible and don't care.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Not sure why people believe Esoterics and Savage Alex will be higher than i200. Got some people believing that Alex Normal (a lockout) is going to occupy the same ilvl tier as Darklight did (an unrestricted tomestone) in relation to Eso/Savage.

Going Nostradamus here:

190>200 Esoterics
200 Savage
190 24man raid
Crafted 160 will be released via red scrips but only for left side main pieces (Body Head Hand Leg Feet) and maybe Belt.
Crafted 160 accessories will be released in 3.1 at the earliest and will have one secondary.
3.1's EXprimal-esque fight will drop a 190 weapon and some i200 accessory (blind guess: Neck)
BRD will see another 5% nudge on WM, saying it's "fixed".
The winning jumbo cactpot numbers the week of 3.1 will be 6241 on Hyperion.

See you guys in 2-3 months when I win the jumbo cactpot.

[Galkaeater]

grinding A1 for the chain this will be the death of me such a boring fight as a tank since you do nothing during the fight while you have to rely on your dps actually doing thier job for once

[Taint]

Not sure why people believe Esoterics and Savage Alex will be higher than i200. Got some people believing that Alex Normal (a lockout) is going to occupy the same ilvl tier as Darklight did (an unrestricted tomestone) in relation to Eso/Savage.

Going Nostradamus here:

190>200 Esoterics
200 Savage
190 24man raid
Crafted 160 will be released via red scrips but only for left side main pieces (Body Head Hand Leg Feet) and maybe Belt.
Crafted 160 accessories will be released in 3.1 at the earliest and will have one secondary.
3.1's EXprimal-esque fight will drop a 190 weapon and some i200 accessory (blind guess: Neck)
BRD will see another 5% nudge on WM, saying it's "fixed".
The winning jumbo cactpot numbers the week of 3.1 will be 6241 on Hyperion.

See you guys in 2-3 months when I win the jumbo cactpot.

They clearly stated the ilvl gaps will be much larger in HW. This allows them to cram in more gear per ilvl increase.

i190 Alex NM
i200 New 24 man Raid
i200 Estrogen > upgrade to i210 via airship or something
i210 Savage

[Seravi Edalborez]

Ah did they? So Alex normal(s) are the missing link we've all been asking for? That's disappointing I guess.

[Kaisha]

Yeah, why I enjoy DF on the JP server compared to NA largely.

Sometimes I wonder if making it mandatory to have cleared an 8man raid before you're able to DF it would help matters any. Sure you'd still get the odd idiot that bought/got carried, but it'd take a lot of dumb out of the equation for the most part no?

[layoneil]

They clearly stated the ilvl gaps will be much larger in HW. This allows them to cram in more gear per ilvl increase.

the "clear" statement is very ambiguous. one interpretation is that the top iLv increase from 135-205? from 2.55 to 3.0 is a much larger jump than 115 to 135, when Final Coil was released.

[Niiro]

Sometimes I wonder if making it mandatory to have cleared an 8man raid before you're able to DF it would help matters any. Sure you'd still get the odd idiot that bought/got carried, but it'd take a lot of dumb out of the equation for the most part no?

Would never happen.

Think of the new players.™

[Taint]

the "clear" statement is very ambiguous. one interpretation is that the top iLv increase from 135-205? from 2.55 to 3.0 is a much larger jump than 115 to 135, when Final Coil was released.

RPGamer: Will the new level 60 armor be available via job quests or via grinding?

Yoshida: We still want to keep this secret for now. But please be assured it’s not going to be something like a Zodiac weapon. So you won’t have to grind that hard. But once Heavensward launches that will be your first goal to reach at the level cap. And with the introduction of Alexander and the normal and hard modes the item levels of those items between the two difficulty levels will be much wider than that of anything in A Realm Reborn. So there will be many different options to gain gear in between.


https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/wiki/pax_2015_interview

[Seravi Edalborez]

The disappointing thing then, if 24man is higher ilvl than Alex Normal, in that an easier (presumably) lockout-gated (presumably) 24man gives better, more reliable (presumably) gear than an 8man raid. Because even if Alex Normal is ridiculously easy, you know CT3.0 is going to be just as or even easier because 24man can't coordinate.

[Taint]

The disappointing thing then, if 24man is higher ilvl than Alex Normal, in that an easier (presumably) lockout-gated (presumably) 24man gives better, more reliable (presumably) gear than an 8man raid. Because even if Alex Normal is ridiculously easy, you know CT3.0 is going to be just as or even easier because 24man can't coordinate.

I kinda get it. This game isn't for raiders its for the casual masses. Alexander NM is a success, its PUGable and 50% of the players can clear it. They will raid it until 3.1 and then raid CT along side of Alex NM.

The people that will be doing Savage coil (5% of the playerbase?) will have wasted time doing Alex NM, unless the gear is a requirement for the Savage tome system. But they aren't catering to us.

[Niiro]

Can't do DoL leves while in a party.

wtf

[Edelweiss]

Alexander NM is a success, its PUGable and 50% of the players can clear it.

I wish I could believe this were true.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Ok who broke what? Emergency maint inc, fucking hell raid night cancelled QQ