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  1. #4861
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokus View Post
    SE is receptive to complaints seeing as they are changing how Alex loot will be handed out, buffing MCH/BRD, buffing HW fates. They just don't really give a shit about any complaints that address the core and pacing of their endgame. Would it really kill them to make multiple events that all drop top tier and relevant gear instead of the dumb shit where they obsolete their own content right away?
    The cold, hard cynic in me says the low exp from FATEs was entirely intentional, including plans to increase it at a later date, they just wanted to artificially slow everyone down to drag out the 50-60 grind at first and ease it later.

    Them listening to people about FATE exp is just part of the plan they already had, they knew it was low and knew people would complain, and they knew they'd increase it to ease the process later.

    There's a reason why the exp amounts still haven't been fixed 2-3 maintenances after they acknowledged it as an issue.

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    I totally agree.

  3. #4863
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    So, to sum the complaints, the game is still the same as 2.0, with lower potential (since extremes are already out as endgame instead of hard modes like Garuda and Titan), more gear grinding and LFR-style Alexander to kill any hype for boss kills?

    Guess I'll just wait until 3.3 or something.

  4. #4864
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    Quote Originally Posted by FHT View Post
    If your crafter(s) is/are below Lv50 then yes it will be a huge mountain to climb, however if one or two are 50 its not so bad, I only have GSM & Miner Lv50+ and its not that bad, I could make 4M gils just by leveling/selling from GSM50 to 54, the Guildleves item requested are not so bad either, even if in my case I am blocked by these Grade 1 Liquid which cost 75k/piece on my server >.>;

    There are also plenty of Low Lv crafted mats that are required to level up to 50+ which can be a little extra income, so really if you want to try it you better start now before everyone's done with the leveling and the MB to go down again.

    For Alexander Im in the same boat, I was one of the loudest token system defender, SE messed the idea up again, when all we wanted was to receive 1 token each upon completion of a duty, we now have to compete & hate each others for a random one..
    I'll give it a shot since I literally have nothing else to do and my legacy sub is prepaid for 6 months. Plus I think my FC is dragging their feet with the airship crafting.

    I hope they do another player feedback survey. I don't know how any other communities feel about Heavensward right now but SE needs to step it up with the endgame content.

  5. #4865
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    Leveling 50-60 with no quests is legit aids.

  6. #4866
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadKarma View Post
    Leveling 50-60 with no quests is legit aids.
    i prefer doing 60 dungeons runs to questing. but i'm an FFXI psycho.

  7. #4867
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    Quote Originally Posted by layoneil View Post
    i prefer doing 60 dungeons runs to questing. but i'm an FFXI psycho.
    I'm on the same page. I can do FATE spam for an hour at the absolute max before I contract FATE AIDS and die.

  8. #4868
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    TIL A3 had a hard enrage (which happened around 24% with no deaths except WHM). When all the adds started exploding and putting multiple DoTs and vulnerabilities on everyone during Tornado phase, the proposed solution was "Overheal, we have a BRD anyway!".

    If that was a regular run, I have no idea how people manage to get their loot through Duty Finder.

  9. #4869
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    The cold, hard cynic in me says the low exp from FATEs was entirely intentional, including plans to increase it at a later date, they just wanted to artificially slow everyone down to drag out the 50-60 grind at first and ease it later.

    Them listening to people about FATE exp is just part of the plan they already had, they knew it was low and knew people would complain, and they knew they'd increase it to ease the process later.

    There's a reason why the exp amounts still haven't been fixed 2-3 maintenances after they acknowledged it as an issue.
    It takes time to move a couple numbers around. Can't fuck it up and have people level comfortably.

    I do agree with you and think it's intentional though HW fates do actually bring more exp/hr that N. Than but it's not leaps better and still less than dungeon spam.

  10. #4870
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    Quote Originally Posted by BadKarma View Post
    Leveling 50-60 with no quests is legit aids.
    If you're in no rush, High, Low, MSQ, Trial, Guildhest roulette and you'll get there in about a week.

    If you are in a rush 51,53,55,57-60 dungeon, 50,52,54,56 - N.than fate. You can get there in about 19 hours.

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    Don't forget your daily hunts, they're worth a good 300k+ every day.
    (Trouble killing high level mobs? Kite 'em.)

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    I feel like I'm the only one on BG who's actually enjoying Alexander.

    Tho I do wish it gave tokens like how ravana and bis do I actually like the people in my static as people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    If you're in no rush, High, Low, MSQ, Trial, Guildhest roulette and you'll get there in about a week.

    If you are in a rush 51,53,55,57-60 dungeon, 50,52,54,56 - N.than fate. You can get there in about 19 hours.
    Also you're the boss thanks. In a rush to hit 60 on AST and then level White Mage

  14. #4874
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    Dungeons are about 3 times faster then N.Than. It takes 3hours of Fates for roughly 1mil XP in N.Than.

    Dailies plus weeklies are your best non brain damage route. Probably do one job a week casually that way.

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    Can't be bothered to do trial roulette as 80% of the time it's chrysalis and people still don't understand that fight a year later

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    In my recent run from 50 - 60 PLD, I do agree that N-Than is super painful to go through. That said Dungeons are faster if you can get chain exp, and when you can't, it's about even with N-Than FATEs until level 57 where Vault and Library blows them out the water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BadKarma View Post
    Can't be bothered to do trial roulette as 80% of the time it's chrysalis and people still don't understand that fight a year later

    I've had good luck with Chrysalis and Steps of Faith. Bismark story however has been a cluster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carth View Post
    In my recent run from 50 - 60 PLD, I do agree that N-Than is super painful to go through. That said Dungeons are faster if you can get chain exp, and when you can't, it's about even with N-Than FATEs until level 57 where Vault and Library blows them out the water.

    Isn't Aery/Vault around 300k XP or am I remembering wrong? Those are around 20min each and it would take close to an hour in North than for 300k.

  19. #4879
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shenrien View Post
    If you're in no rush, High, Low, MSQ, Trial, Guildhest roulette and you'll get there in about a week.
    Roulettes + Daily Bills + 1 dungeon w/ rested XP is usually a guaranteed level a day. Is how I'm going about it. Faster than the one job to lvl50 a month approach I had for 2.0/2.1 when the game didn't shit XP via multiple roulettes/challenge-log/etc.

  20. #4880
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    Generally hate doing roulettes.

    Getting fancy new toys as you level then getting them taken away is just not fun, it's even less fun than level syncing down is normally.

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