FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Galkaeater]

yay savage for harder versions of fights you have done a billion times in only two weeks

[Crizto]

Yeah but this time everything will be multiplied by 2!

[Twilight Sky]

Got AP normal for high level and was quite shocked when the gnats didn't spawn at demon wall. Haven't done Ap since 2.1 can't believe people needed such an easy fight nerfed. Seriously the gnats were the only threatening part of that fight.

I didn't know it was nerfed at all.

[Jahaudant]

Got AP normal for high level and was quite shocked when the gnats didn't spawn at demon wall. Haven't done Ap since 2.1 can't believe people needed such an easy fight nerfed. Seriously the gnats were the only threatening part of that fight.

Back when 2.0 launched and the majority of people barely even had any Darklight gear and we were just learning AK it was legit intense and Demon Wall was pretty damn unforgiving.

In comparison to pretty much every level-cap dungeon they have added since AK is probably (relative to experience and gear) the hardest one. At least before it was nerfed. I think it's been the only dungeon in this game that I didn't one-shot with no prior knowledge.

[Taint]

Back when 2.0 launched and the majority of people barely even had any Darklight gear and we were just learning AK it was legit intense and Demon Wall was pretty damn unforgiving.

In comparison to pretty much every level-cap dungeon they have added since AK is probably (relative to experience and gear) the hardest one. At least before it was nerfed. I think it's been the only dungeon in this game that I didn't one-shot with no prior knowledge.

AK was a huge cock block for most players. I know my first clear took at least 5 attempts at the wall. (maybe more)

If they released anything that hard now people would cry on the OF

[kisada]

i'm sure plenty of people remember being on voice chat screaming

OUT

IN

OUT

IN

REPEL

[Twilight Sky]

I'd say Ramuh EX qualifies for that.. I've yet to clear it because phase 2 really messes with DPS.

[Taint]

I'd say Ramuh EX qualifies for that.. I've yet to clear it because phase 2 really messes with DPS.

Ramuh EX was tough for PUGs, but AK was a required dungeon as opposed to optional content.

[Niiro]

It's too bad we can't go back and do the original AK, go do it with everyone in full AF1 and white crafted accessories (no melds!) and watch as you eat dirt trying to pull the first 2 packs of mobs.

[Taint]

It's too bad we can't go back and do the original AK, go do it with everyone in full AF1 and white crafted accessories (no melds!) and watch as you eat dirt trying to pull the first 2 packs of mobs.

Didn't they say they were adding challenge runs?

i55 AK (even with the nerfs) would be fun and hard.

[Gokulo]

The min ilv setting is already in no?

[Raldo]

Yes, though I suspect most haven't used it (myself included).

[Rocl]

Yes, though I suspect most haven't used it (myself included).

It can be useful in a premade party for farming exp since it caps your lvl as well ilvl so you can guarantee you'll always get exp chains in dungeons

but why effort when you can FATE

[Niiro]

I don't see why it would make a difference if you're in a premade, just don't check undersized party.

Lowering your ilvl doesn't increase exp gained.

edit: low level dungeons don't even have ilvl requirements and level 50 dungeons don't give exp regardless

[Mrbeansman]

I get nerfing Ak but the gnats were what killed 90% of my groups back in the day. Removing removes pretty much anything that can threaten you if your healers not ass.

[Taint]

I don't see why it would make a difference if you're in a premade, just don't check undersized party.

Lowering your ilvl doesn't increase exp gained.

edit: low level dungeons don't even have ilvl requirements and level 50 dungeons don't give exp regardless

You get chain XP by lowering your lvl in Dungeons. We did it a ton while lvling jobs to 60.

[Niiro]

oooooh, you mean for the 51-59 dungeons, that makes sense.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Oh, when you use minimum does it actually take you to the minimum? I thought it would just level cap you as normal (out of EXP chain range). That's actually nice.

[Lokus]

Does this work for HW dungeons or were you using it to grind some pre-50 dungeons?

[Twilight Sky]

Oh, when you use minimum does it actually take you to the minimum? I thought it would just level cap you as normal (out of EXP chain range). That's actually nice.

It will drop you down to the entry lvl(Satasha is 15, and you will be 15. At least when I tested it on my 60BLM). You have to have a premade, or undersized though. It would be nice if were otherwise. Would make tanking a little easier on me with those super i180 players.