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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiryo View Post
    Why does the other leg fully heal in A4 after the first is destroyed? Is there any thematic element in the fight that shows the leg is healed and/or tells you beforehand not to hit it?
    Savage will explain it better I'm sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiryo View Post
    Why does the other leg fully heal in A4 after the first is destroyed? Is there any thematic element in the fight that shows the leg is healed and/or tells you beforehand not to hit it?
    Not really, but a few previous fights work the same way (Tioman's wings in Sohm Al come to mind). There's enough of a precedent that I was not surprised by it the first time I saw it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serenseven View Post
    Not really, but a few previous fights work the same way (Tioman's wings in Sohm Al come to mind).
    I don't recall the other wing getting healed after the first one dies

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    I don't think Tioman's wings regenerates when you kill the other.

    edit: get outta my head raldo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    I don't recall the other wing getting healed after the first one dies
    I could've sworn they did, but it's been a while since I've been in Sohm Al.

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    They definitely don't. Did a bunch today leveling SCH and SMN and I'd bane DoTs from Tioman across to them and aoe them with Painflare/Mage LB.

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    I used the ranged DPS LB on the wings a few times and I can't help but wonder if the damage for mage/ranged LBs is reduced from hitting 3 targets even if one of them is invincible.

    This is assuming the new ranged LB damage is indeed reduced when hitting multiple targets like the caster one (I assume it is).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiryo View Post
    Why does the other leg fully heal in A4 after the first is destroyed? Is there any thematic element in the fight that shows the leg is healed and/or tells you beforehand not to hit it?
    In terms of robotics and such I chalk it up to the fact it's always releasing pressure, which "heals" it (cools it down/removes stress on joints etc.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jahaudant View Post
    I believe the entire point is that in any situation where one might consider marking trash mobs the exercise is pointless since AOEing will provide a faster kill speed.

    Some may argue that single target focusing removes each monster faster and thus reduces the damage output and relieves stress on the healer allowing them to dps more. I argue that any healer experiencing stress in a trash pull of any reasonable size can piss off, and any trash pull that is large enough to be genuinely stressful as a healer shouldn't be marked and single targeted down whatever your inclination. That includes the damn Ninja.
    Completely agree with you here, most of my points were pointed at the common DF party with randoms in places such as Fractal Continum where AoE brainlessly is far less efficient than rotating AoE/Single on relevant monsters (such as Khimaira.) I saw it happen way too often, be NIN/MNK/DRG. In such situation it does not matter if you spread 1000 PTC over 10 targets. I'll gladly take a NIN who actualy rotate his AoE skills/Katon & Single on relevant mob so it dies faster rather than one spamming death blossom anyday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twilight Sky View Post
    No ilevel restrictions.

    Would expect that to happen with 6-7 new players. coming with i130 still.
    1st time I did Ravana Story, the other DRK had an iLv55 weapon (the GC one) so i130 is not so bad..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    This is assuming the new ranged LB damage is indeed reduced when hitting multiple targets like the caster one (I assume it is).
    Wait what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebil View Post
    DF can't even clear normal A1 and at this point in the week I'd settle for just any drop. I'd ask my static but I'd rather spend the limited playtime we got together on progression.
    It's not DF, it's bad players. DF works well and gives bonus when there's a new player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    They definitely don't. Did a bunch today leveling SCH and SMN and I'd bane DoTs from Tioman across to them and aoe them with Painflare/Mage LB.
    Welp, looks like a trip to the random fail thread for me. (But now I'm going to spend the rest of the day wondering in the back of my mind why I would have thought they did.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Wait what?
    Granted PvP isn't the ideal testing ground but multiple people getting splatted by mage LB would agree with your reaction. I've never heard anything about it scaling down either.

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    Pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere a loooong long time ago.

    Caster LB damage was based on the # of targets hit, the amount was diluted with more targets but I don't believe it's just simply a finite amount distributed, rather the potency scales down gradually as the number of targets scale up.

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    Seems easy enough to test on some dummies, rather than PvP. Hardest part would be getting the bodies to sit in a zone for that long. I was never under the impression that the potency went down with the number of targets hit, but I also never really thought about it.

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    Just did Neverreap and the DPS was so pathetic we LB2'd the last boss twice and still had to LB1 again to kill it. And no one got knocked off.

    Burn everything and start over.

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    And then Ramuh HM for Trials where the same two people were tethered for the entire fight because they couldn't figure out how to pick up three orbs quick enough.

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    Chrysalis without a first-time bonus. One WHM is chronically slow reaction time, one tank ignores meteors entirely (killing the 2 DRGs and almost everyone). All bitching at everyone else the entire run.

    Really Lucavi, this shit DOES happen every single day in the one run I bother to DF in every activity. I'm not asking for a perfect week, but it is never not disappointing. I'm only glad I don't have to actually do this to progress unlike some poor fools.

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    Since we're sharing:

    Got Ultros and Typhon earlier, no new people, failed the very first snort twice from people not punching, left.

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    High on high I stand
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