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  1. #541
    Old Odin
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Titan

    Tank is one of the most simple roles but positioning and understanding mob behavior is absolutely important to doing it correctly and something a fair portion of (if this is even really a thing) bandwagon tanks don't understand.

    I mean for fucks sake, Yeti boss in snowcloak is too fucking hard to position for tanks. I ain't trusting some random tank to pick up adds correctly or tank swap correctly. With so many idiots on OF and reddit giving the absolute wrong ways to do these.

    I'm not gonna generalize and say "X class doesn't understand Y class's struggles", but you need to play it yourself to really appreciate how bad some people can be.

  2. #542
    Black Belt
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    Arthars Menethil
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    Chocobo
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    Odin

    DDOS has seem to attack JP servers finally......

    cant login now ; ;

  3. #543
    D. Ring
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    Grey Jorildyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez View Post
    Tank is one of the most simple roles but positioning and understanding mob behavior is absolutely important to doing it correctly and something a fair portion of (if this is even really a thing) bandwagon tanks don't understand.

    I mean for fucks sake, Yeti boss in snowcloak is too fucking hard to position for tanks. I ain't trusting some random tank to pick up adds correctly or tank swap correctly. With so many idiots on OF and reddit giving the absolute wrong ways to do these.

    I'm not gonna generalize and say "X class doesn't understand Y class's struggles", but you need to play it yourself to really appreciate how bad some people can be.
    Basically all this. Since I am trying to work on Ninja books and just generally practice the job in roulettes, I've had to suffer with tanks that are absolutely fucking terrible. Half the time I get another FC member or two to come along on healer or dps and then I end up feeling bad I didn't go on tank.

  4. #544
    Puppetmaster
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    The Cutest
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    Midgardsormr
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    Leviathan

    Quote Originally Posted by Arthars View Post
    DDOS has seem to attack JP servers finally......

    cant login now ; ;
    I think it's happening on NA too? just got back from work, can't log in w 5006 errors.

  5. #545
    CoP Dynamis
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    Cerberus

    Yeah, happening on NA also

  6. #546
    Piece of shit Bruins fan

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    Beat Daisukenojo
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    Hyperion

    Quote Originally Posted by Dammerung View Post
    Princess shit tanks in guildhests. Get so offended when I just run and attack level 15 mobs, stand there and lecture me about it then refuse to do anything the rest of the run.
    To be fair, Guildhests are about teaching you how to do your job, and you're kinda not letting him do that.

    I mean, to an extent I can totally go along with "quit taking so long in MY DUNGEON" and all, but if you're trying to hurry along a guildhest, what are you even doing there to begin with?

  7. #547
    Hydra
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    Milk Ichigo
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    Leviathan

    DPS that use Limit Break on monster packs right before the boss. Twice.

  8. #548
    Ridill
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    They really need to make the "adventurer in need" bonus increase with severity of need.

    0/1 1/1 2/2
    "More than 30m"

  9. #549
    Old Odin
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    Seravi Edalborez
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    Cutters Cry, had to get up for literally 2 minutes so I said "brb" 2-3 pulls before first boss (guess I died to bombs while I was afk). I got back and I was kicked without a word. I'd have been more pissed if this was my low roulette, but fucking seriously.

  10. #550
    Campaign
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    Sean Kipling
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    Midgardsormr

    I swear to God. My server in particular it seems, is fucking down right before raid again.

    asdalskdmalskmdlakmdslamdslAKMdslamsdlamdslakmdsla kmdslakdmslaksmdlakmsdlaskmdlAksmdlakmdslaksmdlask mdlAKnfksjdfbn kasjnfdkasnfdk;lsdnfkl;sd;nfk;lsjdnfklsjdnf

  11. #551
    Sandworm Swallows
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    Yeah I can't log in, 5006. This is getting real old.

  12. #552
    Relic Horn
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    Excalibur
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    T12 cutscene bugs out and I see nothing but a white screen, lol. Way to kill the mood.

  13. #553
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Quote Originally Posted by solracht View Post
    T12 cutscene bugs out and I see nothing but a white screen, lol. Way to kill the mood.
    Same. It's okay tho it loaded for 2s at the end. Good thing I spoiled myself.

  14. #554
    Remit One (1) Custom Title
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    Qeomash Pandemonium
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    The Turn 7 nerf apparently wasn't enough, becuse seemingly most groups I join/put together can't clear it without wiping.

  15. #555
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    HOT LITTLE SNATCH

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    Jam Valesti
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    Any group not marked as "farm" in PF (or just DF groups in general) are likely to wipe unless you take in multiple people who have cleared or at least have experience. People who are actually good at the game can joke about how easy they are but there's a very good reason SE nerfed them, and it is because people are fucking idiots. I've joined a couple of farm groups that still struggle with shit, pretty much every damn T7 farm I've joined has misfired shrieks, voices on the boss and other players, etc.

  16. #556
    Bagel
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    Valar Morghulis
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    Leviathan
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    Leviathan
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    Stormrage

    Back when first coil unlocked and went to the DF, we tried to get a few FC mates through a couple turns for loot, funsies, just to see it etc. Most of them were ok, and things went smoothly except for one guy. One guy in particular was that type where you just have to sit and scratch your head, wondering who ties their shoes and if the helmet makes it hard to play.

    Basically, he was supposed to be one of our silencers for ADS and missed every single one. Upon some discussions, it's not that his reaction time was slow. It was that he didn't know where the mobs cast bar was. He made it to coil and didn't know mobs had a cast bar. Whatever, time to learn him some knowledge. So a FC mate has him come to the house to target him and watch for the bar as he cures himself. Cures go off, "Did you see it?" "no". Tries again. "See it this time?" "no". So cure after cure, and the guy still doesn't see the bar. Finally, we target the guy and lo and behold he's targetting the fucking summoning bell. It took another 5 minutes or so to get him to target the right guy, and he tries the cures again. "Do you see the cast bar?" "no". He's back on the summoning bell, and never again did I enter a single instance with the guy.

    TL:DR

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    people are fucking idiots

  17. #557
    Remit One (1) Custom Title
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiarax View Post
    Any group not marked as "farm" in PF (or just DF groups in general) are likely to wipe unless you take in multiple people who have cleared or at least have experience. People who are actually good at the game can joke about how easy they are but there's a very good reason SE nerfed them, and it is because people are fucking idiots. I've joined a couple of farm groups that still struggle with shit, pretty much every damn T7 farm I've joined has misfired shrieks, voices on the boss and other players, etc.
    Oh, even the "farm" groups tend to get one or two people who are terrible. And that's all you need to bring a run down. WHM body finally dropped, and I rolled a 97.

    The fail? This is part of what it took, with maybe a third of these being clears:
    Spoiler: show


  18. #558
    Resident Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by solracht View Post
    T12 cutscene bugs out and I see nothing but a white screen, lol. Way to kill the mood.
    Happened to the person in my group who actually gives a shit about the story, heh.

    Can rewatch it at the inn though. Weird quirk with the video is that it'll use the current audio device, rather than whatever XIV booted up using, which meant that sweet sauce played out over my headset. :/

    Random complaint: Why the fuck is there still no audio device select in XIV while it's running.

  19. #559
    A. Body
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    Sir Taint
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korialstrasz View Post
    Back when first coil unlocked and went to the DF, we tried to get a few FC mates through a couple turns for loot, funsies, just to see it etc. Most of them were ok, and things went smoothly except for one guy. One guy in particular was that type where you just have to sit and scratch your head, wondering who ties their shoes and if the helmet makes it hard to play.

    Basically, he was supposed to be one of our silencers for ADS and missed every single one. Upon some discussions, it's not that his reaction time was slow. It was that he didn't know where the mobs cast bar was. He made it to coil and didn't know mobs had a cast bar. Whatever, time to learn him some knowledge. So a FC mate has him come to the house to target him and watch for the bar as he cures himself. Cures go off, "Did you see it?" "no". Tries again. "See it this time?" "no". So cure after cure, and the guy still doesn't see the bar. Finally, we target the guy and lo and behold he's targetting the fucking summoning bell. It took another 5 minutes or so to get him to target the right guy, and he tries the cures again. "Do you see the cast bar?" "no". He's back on the summoning bell, and never again did I enter a single instance with the guy.

    TL:DR

    I loled

  20. #560
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    They really need to make the "adventurer in need" bonus increase with severity of need.

    0/1 1/1 2/2
    "More than 30m"
    Everytime the above occurs: NIN should have been a tank.

    Spoiler: show
    ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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