FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Niiro]

Went into A3 normal. WHM died because tethers, threw a fit and decided to return instead of waiting for a raise. I solo healed the whole way through and we won.

...and of course I rolled a 4 on the spring and he won it.

That's why you votekick them before opening the chests.

[FHT]

That's why you votekick them before opening the chests.

I think that is against the rule tho, better not to play with fire there.

[Niiro]

If there's a valid reason to kick someone what difference does it make.

[Tokitoki]

I think that is against the rule tho, better not to play with fire there.

This is sarcasm, right? The WHM died, returned to the start of the dungeon, and they beat the fight without them. They did not contribute enough to warrant earning anything and were outside the fight for the victory. That is absolutely grounds to be removed from the party.

[Siniroth]

I think it's absolutely okay to vote kick someone for not contributing to the fight so much that they literally make themselves unable to act on the fight. Is there anything against kicking DPS or tanks that deliberately eat AoEs and die in order to make the fight undoable?

[Raldo]

Good luck timing that vote kick after the game considers the fight complete but before someone opens a chest. I've tried to do that a few times before and never succeeded.

[Tokitoki]

Good luck timing that vote kick after the game considers the fight complete but before someone opens a chest. I've tried to do that a few times before and never succeeded.

Should have just kicked them when they raged and left the arena.

[Raldo]

Should have just kicked them when they raged and left the arena.

Sounds like they died mid-fight and hit return; you can't vote-kick while in combat, nor while there's stuff in the loot pool, which means you have a REALLY tiny window with which to vote kick them (also, I'm not sure if you can vote kick people after the entire instance is considered complete, so there may have been zero opportunity).

[octopus]

Should have just kicked them when they raged and left the arena.

I thought you can't kick while in combat... can you?

[Tokitoki]

Sounds like they died mid-fight and hit return; you can't vote-kick while in combat, nor while there's stuff in the loot pool, which means you have a REALLY tiny window with which to vote kick them (also, I'm not sure if you can vote kick people after the entire instance is considered complete, so there may have been zero opportunity).

I thought you can't kick while in combat... can you?

Honestly, I'd be gone for probably 18 months and only done a vote kick once. I was not aware.

[Niiro]

Good luck timing that vote kick after the game considers the fight complete but before someone opens a chest. I've tried to do that a few times before and never succeeded.

The only time I've ever had a need (or success) is in CT/ST/WoD since the arenas are so big, you generally have time before anyone opens the chest.

And since there aren't any CSs when the boss dies (cept final) you can ready is and confirm just as they die.

[FHT]

This is sarcasm, right?

Isn't vote kicking someone at the end to prevent them to have a chance at the loot box against Term of Use? I remember seeing an article about that a longtime ago.

[Siniroth]

Isn't vote kicking someone at the end to prevent them to have a chance at the loot box against Term of Use? I remember seeing an article about that a longtime ago.

Doing it deliberately is almost certainly against it, but as I said up there, I'm pretty sure if there's a good reason to vote kick anyway it might be okay

[Kiarax]

I imagine people who are intentionally being shitheads and griefing the party are probably less likely to report simply because of the fact they're doing something that's entirely reportable too.

[Silenka]

Sadly, shitty players don't tend to see being a shitty player as a wrongdoing. They want their participation trophy regardless of how much they actually contributed to the group, because that's how kids are raised nowadays.

[gaira]

scrip reset being on thurs instead of tues like everything else, why?

[FHT]

Doing it deliberately is almost certainly against it, but as I said up there, I'm pretty sure if there's a good reason to vote kick anyway it might be okay

I'd rather let the idiot walk away with his drop rather than taking such a risk, because when it come to him dieing and HPing to then for the boss to die, he could easily lie and say that he thougth he had a raise & missclicked yes. That the kind of thing I'd rather let go just for the sake of not being part of any stupid drama.

[layoneil]

scrip reset being on thurs instead of tues like everything else, why?

so that people can bumrush them on different days to cap if they fall behind.

[Alistaire]

scrip reset being on thurs instead of tues like everything else, why?

Because it was implemented on a thursday I guess.

[Niiro]

Fucking hate the challenge log sometimes.

Wasted my NQ crafting bonus on a lvl 60 while quick synthing.