FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Raldo]

Are you quarantined?

Y -> ok
N -> kill the adds

I thought the adds needed to be kept away from each other (well, not really that, but people need to not get >5 stacks)? I got into Alex late, so I don't know it that well. If you don't lay out letters, people are going to kill without spreading out and everyone gets stacks.

If you don't trust the DF to have good DPS, I don't know why you'd trust them to kill the adds before they wind up with 5 stacks if they're allowed to ball up.

I had a 4 melee DPS run and the letters helped us keep things organized. I, as the ninja with increased run speed, selected the far add.

[Tarli]

Are you quarantined?

Y -> ok
N -> kill the adds

But then you get 3 melee in DF who all decide to pick the one next to the leg, and the range picks one of the other two...and suddenly one's on the healer because DPS can be idiots. Whereas if everyone calls one and someone calls floating or whatever you wanna call it, then you can at least see who's the idiot. Basically I just don't trust other DPS.

[Niiro]

I thought the adds needed to be kept away from each other (well, not really that, but people need to not get >5 stacks)? I got into Alex late, so I don't know it that well. If you don't lay out letters, people are going to kill without spreading out and everyone gets stacks.

If you don't trust the DF to have good DPS, I don't know why you'd trust them to kill the adds before they wind up with 5 stacks if they're allowed to ball up.

I had a 4 melee DPS run and the letters helped us keep things organized. I, as the ninja with increased run speed, selected the far add.

The reason you're "supposed" to keep them separate is because they give a stack of the debuff to everyone in range when they die.

At least I think they do, the stacks mechanic was only relevant for like the first week it was released, the things die in like 5 seconds.

I can't even remember how many stacks killed you (I think that's what they did anyway).

[Serenseven]

I like letters sometimes when learning content positioning....

Letters for learning content, or for content where it's very easy to lose track of your bearings (T9's divebombs, for instance) are fine; it's the "let's take this dead simple mechanic and complicate the hell out of it" crap I can't stand.

I thought the adds needed to be kept away from each other (well, not really that, but people need to not get >5 stacks)? I got into Alex late, so I don't know it that well. If you don't lay out letters, people are going to kill without spreading out and everyone gets stacks.

If you don't trust the DF to have good DPS, I don't know why you'd trust them to kill the adds before they wind up with 5 stacks if they're allowed to ball up.

IIRC, four stacks is fatal. The dolls pulse so slowly though that you should never have more than one stack before they die.

As for the DF, half the time even when letters are called, randoms won't take "their" doll or sometimes any doll at all. Or you get two DPS on one doll and another doll running free because one DPS took the "wrong" doll and the other won't adjust. I actually get marginally better results by removing the letters and forcing the schmucks to try to think for themselves.

[kisada]

last a4 i was in, some guy was talking about which letters the dps were on and i was so confused.

now i know why, and now i wish i didn't know why

[Eidle]

Are you quarantined?

Y -> ok
N -> kill the adds

Yea the first couple times i did A4, no one did the waymark thing, its common sense to me in most situations, there are adds up, dps should switch to them and kill them.

then people started dropping markers saying "call a letter" and im standing there saying to myself, what is the point? is it to assign blame if something goes wrong? "the add on A didn't die, that person sucks and should be kicked"

[Kirbyprime]

Apparently there are dps that are stupidly tunnel visioned and won't kill adds until there's a giant floating letter there ( not that it helps since they just don't see adds ). But also, it's a way for shitty dps to instantly call "floater" so that they wouldn't have to kill adds for some reason and blame others for being bad.

[FHT]

Apparently there are dps that are stupidly tunnel visioned and won't kill adds until there's a giant floating letter there ( not that it helps since they just don't see adds ). But also, it's a way for shitty dps to instantly call "floater" so that they wouldn't have to kill adds for some reason and blame others for being bad.

They have been having their hands holded in dungeons during the leveling process with marker on which target to kill cause they are too lazy to take a quick look, so nothing surprising here.

[Niiro]

Why are there 3-mudra ninjutsu?

There are 3 mudras.

That makes 6 possible combinations of 2 (no repeating).

There are 6 ninjutsu (not counting Fuma, which is just any 1 mudra).

Why were the 6 ninjutsu not just made to be the 6 different 2-mudra combos, like a sane person would design it.

Did we really need multiple mudra sequences to do the same ninjutsu?

[Alistaire]

Why are there 3-mudra ninjutsu?

There are 3 mudras.

That makes 6 possible combinations of 2 (no repeating).

There are 6 ninjutsu (not counting Fuma, which is just any 1 mudra).

Why were the 6 ninjutsu not just made to be the 6 different 2-mudra combos, like a sane person would design it.

Did we really need multiple mudra sequences to do the same ninjutsu?

To gate some behind levels, of course.

[Raldo]

To gate some behind levels, of course.

Could still gate them exactly the same way and keep them all as 2-mudra

For the sake of not looking them up, I'm going to call them A, B, and C.

Fuma - Any one mudra, works once you have access to A (Lv30)
Raiton/Katon - AB/BA, these only work once you have access to B (Lv35)
Huton/Suiton/Doton/Hyoton - CA/AC/CB/BC, these only work once you have access to C (Lv45)

Same order as we already learned them, and hey, they even end with the same mudra that we currently use. Doubling up on any one mudra or going to a 3-combo would still trigger fuck-up bunny.

Hadn't thought of it before; love it.

[Niiro]

Yea if they were all 2 mudras nothing would change in terms of which you get at what level.

When you get your 2nd mudra at 35 you get 2 new ninjutsu to go along with the 2 mudra combos you can now make (ten-chi for Raiton and chi-ten for Katon).

You get the rest at 45 with your 3rd mudra, and a bunch of alternate combos for the same spells that serve no real purpose.

They designed it such that 2 mudras for all the spells would work fine then made some of them 3 for.....some reason.

[Destinye]

EH knowing yoshi he probably wanted to avoid how every other MMO dealt with Ninja skills..by that being different for the sake of it.

[Ragnus]

I got FSH to 50 last night and was really excited to have bought all my Fishing AF. Now I realize that I'm still 100 Gathering short of catching legendaries in the 2.55 content and the 50-60 content just seems like another gilsink especially if I have to meld up my current gear just to level up.

[Taint]

I got FSH to 50 last night and was really excited to have bought all my Fishing AF. Now I realize that I'm still 100 Gathering short of catching legendaries in the 2.55 content and the 50-60 content just seems like another gilsink especially if I have to meld up my current gear just to level up.

50-60 grind is easy, I'd do that then go back and get legendaries etc.

[Niiro]

You shouldn't need any of that just to level.

I don't fish any more but I seriously doubt you level on legendaries.

I took MIN/BTN to 60 with ease in lvl 50 Forager's gear.

[Siniroth]

"You should play DPS if you want to do damage to monsters"

Okay, I'll autofollow you because this is Sastasha and let Eos do all the work while I go make a sandwich

[Carth]

I got FSH to 50 last night and was really excited to have bought all my Fishing AF. Now I realize that I'm still 100 Gathering short of catching legendaries in the 2.55 content and the 50-60 content just seems like another gilsink especially if I have to meld up my current gear just to level up.

I have no idea how Fishing collectables work, but if push comes to shove, you can just do daily GCs to push FSH to 53-55, which is when you get really solid gear to do whatever the hell you want.

[Obsidian]

I like letters sometimes when learning content positioning....

But it's like some people can't function without them. Like, they REFUSE to move if there's no marks up.

As someone who's colourblind, the markers are pretty critical to me as a tank for figuring out my positioning on the fly. Especially where danger zones are concerned because SE STILL WON'T LET ME CHANGE THE FUCKING COLOUR OF THEM TO SOMETHING WITH A CONTRAST OF MORE THAN 0.

[Ratatapa]

As someone who's colourblind, the markers are pretty critical to me as a tank for figuring out my positioning on the fly. Especially where danger zones are concerned because SE STILL WON'T LET ME CHANGE THE FUCKING COLOUR OF THEM TO SOMETHING WITH A CONTRAST OF MORE THAN 0.

So that's why you change allegiance from blue to red during the season