FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Grey Jorildyn]

Not touching the rest of your wrongness with a 10-foot pole, but how on earth did you arrive at this conclusion? However minimal the increase, STR gear is going to lessen the duration of any given pull. You'll objectively require more cooldowns in VIT gear. Even if you have to do a considerable number of Flashes(because PLD is stupid and can't AoE), the pseudo-potency of the ability rises with your attack strength, so you're able to get back to Goring Blade even quicker.

Stahp! Just play it cool, like it never happened...

[Deathbringer]

1. If you're using Vitality Gear then you wouldn't need to blow so many cooldowns in order to maintain your survivability as a tank. Vit Accessories and VIT in general is a Primary Stat for any tank. I think you would know this.

2. Warrior I can agree with, they have a huge HP Pool. Not to mention Inner Beast, Bloodbath, Defiance and I believe....Storms Path I'm going to have to disagree with Dark Knight's in full strength I'm gonna have to disagree with, while Warrior has the skill kit to maintain their own HP Pool. Dark Knight's do not. I ddon't know what cross class skills they have but Dark Knight in my opinion doesn't have natural strength in the class itself to be on par with Warrior in full Strength Gear. Here is why, and this is purely my opinion mind you.

Abyssal Drain - It's a good skill, returns a % of HP back, but the MP Cost is lengthy. I don't think any sensible Dark Knight is going to be spamming that.

Soul Eater - Also a good HP % Skill, cost TP instead of MP. Good sustain. I'm not sure how the formula is calculated. If the skill is based off of STR, where x amount of STR = Damage. Damage = % of HP Returned. If it's something like this then perhaps 2 STR/3 VIT accessories would be acceptable.

Blood Price - Goes hand in hand with Abyssal Drain.. You take damage to restore MP in order to use your MP Related skills. A bit redundant if you ask me. This skill in my opinion only comes off to me if you have the HP to take said hits in order to use the skill properly.

If I had to make any changes to Dark Knight, it would have to be Salted Earth. I believe that would give them more viability as a STR based class. This is what I would do, I would keep the effect it already has, but instead add an HP Drain effect to it.

I haven't heard of a Dark Knight (Yet) anyways, pulling as much DPS as a Warrior. A warrior can pull enough DPS with say Bloodbath on to sustain their own HP Pool quite well, Dark Knight's not so much, which is why STR DRK's are frowned upon. They don't have the DPS to sustain their own lifeforce and end up taking dirt naps. It's not even a Healers fault, if you're being hit for more than you can handle and dish out to return that missing HP that's a gear check.

[solracht]

that guy, fucking lol

[Niiro]

Fucking A2 normal.

No, sure, I'll get in the walker, you keep on with that sweet 500 DPS.

(who the fuck am I kidding, they don't have the motor skills to do walker anyway)

[MrSamuels]

How do you get retards to not fuck up the blob phase in A3S, quite honestly we have been at this point for fucking 2 weeks now and no progression from it because people either:

Ignore blobs and letting them go to the outer room
Fuck up + and -'s
or fucking run like a headless chicken during tethers.

Honestly thinking of just leaving the group cause no amount of gear is going to save the full retardation that is going on in my group right now.

[layoneil]

Fucking A2 normal.

No, sure, I'll get in the walker, you keep on with that sweet 500 DPS.

(who the fuck am I kidding, they don't have the motor skills to do walker anyway)

what walker? just heal through it.

[FHT]

I like how the guy come in, talks about job he has no clue about nor have unlocked (DRK.)

1. If you're using Vitality Gear then you wouldn't need to blow so many cooldowns in order to maintain your survivability as a tank. Vit Accessories and VIT in general is a Primary Stat for any tank. I think you would know this.

No matter the gear set, a tank HAS to use their CDs, so people like you can DPS instead of throwing heals & sitting on their bottoms.. A tank job is to tank, they are given tools to do so, like you the healer you have tools to heal people, what you just said there is similar to saying "Im healer but its ok if I don't heal!"

2. Warrior I can agree with, they have a huge HP Pool. Not to mention Inner Beast, Bloodbath, Defiance and I believe....Storms Path I'm going to have to disagree with Dark Knight's in full strength I'm gonna have to disagree with, while Warrior has the skill kit to maintain their own HP Pool. Dark Knight's do not. I ddon't know what cross class skills they have but Dark Knight in my opinion doesn't have natural strength in the class itself to be on par with Warrior in full Strength Gear. Here is why, and this is purely my opinion mind you.

Abyssal Drain - It's a good skill, returns a % of HP back, but the MP Cost is lengthy. I don't think any sensible Dark Knight is going to be spamming that.

Soul Eater - Also a good HP % Skill, cost TP instead of MP. Good sustain. I'm not sure how the formula is calculated. If the skill is based off of STR, where x amount of STR = Damage. Damage = % of HP Returned. If it's something like this then perhaps 2 STR/3 VIT accessories would be acceptable.

Whats abyssal is the wrong in here, first of all, Bloodbath is an horrendous skills which absorb 25% of an attack... even if you hit for 2000, you recover 500HP.. but to compare that to Soul Eater is ridiculous, Souleater absorb 100% of the damage dealt, on top it can be enhanced by Dark Arts, my Souleater(s) can reach up to 3100 damages (crits) with proper food & DPS gears.

Now for your info, WAR main source of self healing is a offGCD, while DRK has its own self regain at the end of a combo, ok your WAR can heal himself fully once in a while, but the DRK can do it every combo if they want to.

Blood Price - Goes hand in hand with Abyssal Drain.. You take damage to restore MP in order to use your MP Related skills. A bit redundant if you ask me. This skill in my opinion only comes off to me if you have the HP to take said hits in order to use the skill properly.

Blood Price is for packs tanking, you use Unleash, then pop Blood Price so the enemies restore your MP, there is nothing redundant here, your job is to keep your tank alive so they will have the HPs to take hits, and this is done by using Blood Price & shadowskin/wall.

I haven't heard of a Dark Knight (Yet) anyways, pulling as much DPS as a Warrior. A warrior can pull enough DPS with say Bloodbath on to sustain their own HP Pool quite well, Dark Knight's not so much, which is why STR DRK's are frowned upon. They don't have the DPS to sustain their own lifeforce and end up taking dirt naps. It's not even a Healers fault, if you're being hit for more than you can handle and dish out to return that missing HP that's a gear check.

Thats what we call Rotations, gonna do them in a smart order to pull DPS, WAR is a little ahead of us but not by a great margin, on top you gotta stop with the Bloodbath BS, cause 25% HP off a 1500 attack isn't gonna help you against a 15k Tank buster.

[Qeomash]

I'm a VIT spec, VIT accessories PLD who is going to be switching to STR when I remember to get the reset item when I'm actually at my GC.

Come at me.

[Niiro]

what walker? just heal through it.

We're talking about DF here.

[Siniroth]

What's wrong with DPS?

Oh nothing, I play BLM, bring on the big pulls plz

[Destinye]

Complaint:

After crying endlessly on the OF for a TP bar....

Niggas still don't know how and when to use Goad/Paeon/Turret TP shit.

[Niiro]

Honestly, I've gotten so used to seeing the colored/numbered ACT bars that I find I'm forgetting sometimes >_>

[FHT]

After crying endlessly on the OF for a TP bar....

Not to mention those who are now asking for a way to turn it off, lol.

I tried to solo Pharos Sirus on Unsync'd DRK60, had no problem up to Siren which I got to 7%, complaint: This isn't freaking FFXI & I can't /WHM for Erase.

[Jahaudant]

I tried to solo that place with Diablos. Forgot the very first boss just swallows you. At least I didn't waste as much time as I imagine you did.

[FHT]

lol, well thank you very much because I was gonna attempt it so see how it goes and I had forgotten that detail. I guess unsync is another good idea poorly implented, but then I guess it would be hard to remove some mechanics depending sync/unsync.

[MisterBob]

where do people like this come from

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv

[Tarli]

Lost city is supposed to be doable. There are some strategies for getting around that mechanic. One is to use shielding to survive, since apparently it just does your max hp as damage.

[Niiro]

Shadow Flare + Earthen Fury and hope the DoTs kill it!

[Lokus]

Not to mention those who are now asking for a way to turn it off, lol.

I tried to solo Pharos Sirus on Unsync'd DRK60, had no problem up to Siren which I got to 7%, complaint: This isn't freaking FFXI & I can't /WHM for Erase.

I want a way to turn it off too along with other things. If I don't need to see certain UI elements, it's useless clutter. I like ACT's plugin cause I could filter which jobs I wanted to see and on which jobs I wanted to see them on.

[Niiro]

Something occurred to me about the TP display and the ACT plugin:

Before 3.0 the ACT plugin had the option to automatically set itself in the exact location the TP display is now, the function was broken with the 3.0 update and now has to be set manually.

The realization: the XIV client already had the framework for the TP display this whole time and just didn't display it (it was likely broken with 3.0 as they were making changes to implement the display proper).

How else could the plugin automatically know where to put the TP bars on your screen without you telling it where your party list was, that info was already in the client along with the TP values.