FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[gaira]

the only issue i had as blm with neverreap was entering ice phase right as boss went invul (like bliz 3 would land, but not proc umbral ice and therefore lose enochain). after seeing this a few times, and switching to the adds, it's really not a big issue as blm. that boss has extremely low health anyway, even with the pain in the ass tornadoes.

[Cassalot]

the only issue i had as blm with neverreap was entering ice phase right as boss went invul (like bliz 3 would land, but not proc umbral ice and therefore lose enochain).

my god this happened to me today on blm and I raged so hard. enochain whyyyy

[Twilight Sky]

I like popping manaward when it's about to do the knockback move. All fly back, while I stand there like a boss and nuking the shit out of it. The first boss of nevereap is a tough one though. Second boss, if he doesn't mark me, I can burn him down fast.

[FHT]

I don't know why you're emphasizing that the boss moves around when that only matters for one point of the fight, and it's negligible in comparison to Neverreap's second boss where the dps loss is generally a noticeable chunk.

Alway seemed about the same to me, but we gotta do what works best for us I guess.

It cannot one shot you if you're topped up, and there's plenty of room for the healer to heal me based on their instinctive behaviour, unless they choose to be a dick and moan "WHY DIDN'T YOU DODGE. NOT HEALING YOU FOR THAT" but screw him.

I think as it stands there's a small difference of playstyles here, hence the misunderstandings. I'm all about unorthodox.

Thats fair, thanks for the add tip I didn't know that.

A lot of people have the mentality that once your ilvl is high enough you can just ignore all mechanics. For many mechanics that's true but most people are lazy and just go with the "someone else will do it" approach.

The same goes when you pull, when they're above iLv185 they just believe that they are terminator and will not care about screwing a pull, then will proceed to moan cause you don't pull fast enough for their taste.

As for a complaint, just did like 7 A1 normal in a row cause I still have not got the drop there, only 2 party worked out while the others were full of derps here & there. From a MNK supposed to get the adds on Oppressor and kill it under the nearest light who came to bring it to me (on 0.5) to the last I just had below, I "spoiler" it cause its kind of a long rant;

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Ended up with this gem, he wanted to DPS & stayed under his DPS stance the whole time, I had to take the lead & MT cause he was "waiting for me to" but the guy was full VIT.. I didn't want to be an ass & I accepted cause screw it, I want my drop.. I pull Oppressor & take it to the south side of the room to leave him the space necessary to Voke/Tomahawk the 0.5 when it comes.

The guy proceed to tell me in the middle of the fight that he would tank swap with me when 0.5 pop but I didn't see it cause I wasn't paying attention the chat log, as the healer were horrendous... anyway why would he suggest something like that, when I already sucked his badness up & was nice to let him DPS with his full VIT set?

0.5 pop, he come to try & tank swap, sees that it does not work cause well, its a better idea to say things before fight, not during the fight.. He let the 0.5 wreck the hell out of me and we all die. Meanwhile I notice 1 add still alive with 50~% HPs. So I ask, "why?" Why would you make me run south to tank Oppressor then ask me to run back to north? cause apparently its too hard to Voke/Tomahawk the 0.5 when it comes out! I have done it since day 1 of Alex1 NM, I do it in A1S, but today it was too hard for that WAR.. But heh? Isn't the amount of hate on both Oppressor & 0.5 the same to begin with? So taking Oppressor or 0.5 with Vote/Tomahawk is the same right? To me he just wanted to laze & have his E-peepee massaged.

Anyway, carrying on, I get called out by his WHM friend to be bad cause apparently its harder to run back north, than just stance swapping & going to intercept the 0.5 (aka the WAR job..)

I am still nice & ask "Why would you make things more complicated than what they should be? Just MT it then." & again I am met with unlogical answer (related to my enmity point above) & him waiting in his DPS stance

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(AND HIS ****ING VIT GEAR!!)

, we try again, he finaly decided to swap to defiance & go North when 0.5 come! Aleluya? Meanwhile one of the SMN don't stop dieing for w/e reason (along with one of the 2 WHMs), the adds are not taken care of properly. I saw a big explosiong with people dieng to adds & missiles..

Then it ended like this;

http://i57.tinypic.com/1zczdwg.png

The guy tell me to be a good player & to know how to play, meanwhile he was the lowest DPS (DRG) on both Faust & Oppressor (according to game party lolparse) and he was in charge of the 0.5 Alarums which wiped the 0.5 side of the party..

My answer was "Its funny, I wasn't the DPS unable to put 2 adds under a light" to which he replied "Yeah its funny" then the WHM dropped

TLDR: This is why I hate DF, I alway end up with these people..

[Niiro]

The guy proceed to tell me in the middle of the fight that he would tank swap with me when 0.5 pop but I didn't see it cause I wasn't paying attention the chat log, as the healer were horrendous... anyway why would he suggest something like that

Because you already have hate on the .5 and that way the other tank doesn't have to scramble to voke and lob it as soon as it becomes targetable and hope it doesn't taker forever to update its target, or start casting missile and be locked in place until the animation finishes.

[Ratatapa]

That's what we use on a1s at least

Pld tank oppressor and when .5 pops, war takes oppressor so pld can just run quietly with .5

[Lokus]

Judging by some of the recent complaints, SE is just fucked no matter how they design a fight. Tank and spank? Too boring. Boss does something gimmicky, not complete tank and spank? Fuuuuck!

That aside, this game's PvE needs some serious fun replayability or different style of content. The monotony of the content is wearing on me and my static as well.

[Destinye]

Guess it's more of a flow thing. I never had issue voking the .5 and keeping it in spot when it becomes targetable. Another thing you could easily do is voke the oppressor right before the .5 pops and you'll have hate on .5 and can go in place just fine..but eh always found it easier to just pull Oppressor to where you slide in and keep .5 where it spawns and (depending on Normal/Savage) you swap sides depending on where they fall after jump.

Then again..I noticed on DF A1 people love to tank Oppressor to the left/right rather than front/back, so I can see why it can get kinda fuckey.

[Carth]

I don't have an issue with either voke method, but the 2nd tank voking the Oppressor is very safe and very easy to execute.

[FHT]

Guess it's more of a flow thing. I never had issue voking the .5 and keeping it in spot when it becomes targetable.

Me neither, I don't understand how people have trouble doing so.

Because you already have hate on the .5 and that way the other tank doesn't have to scramble to voke and lob it as soon as it becomes targetable and hope it doesn't taker forever to update its target, or start casting missile and be locked in place until the animation finishes.

I'd normaly agree with you & Rata, but in this case the WAR was just silent waiting for me to MT cause he cared more about his DPS (fulltiming VIT) rather than just telling me what he wanted to do from the beginning, I'd have had no issue with this strat normaly given that I am not told "I'll tank swap" when the Oppressor is near 70% HP left. In the 6 previous party, I was asked to OT & the MT did exactly what I did in this 7th party, I didn't see any problem in running North to pick 0.5 when the alarm rung.

[Carth]

After a few days of trying to clear Ravana EX, I'm wishing I pushed to clear it before Eso weapons came out. The ones that are willing to stay and repeat the fight are far and few in between, and the rest are rage quitters, dense and terrible, or both. I am so tired of being so close to finishing Ravana's song and dance past Final Liberation, then some fucker rage quits and it's just a chain reaction from there.

This wouldn't be nearly as infuriating if I wasn't MCH for my savage static and need the hive weapon since it'll take 3 weeks to get my eso weapon. So right now I'm just salty as hell because it seems no matter how good I get, there's some incompetent douchebags that rage quits after a few tries even though trials are meant to be attempted multiple times until you get it down.

[FHT]

^ I am so sorry for you, I went trou the same & ended up giving up because it was Titan EX all over again for me. I4d definately join you & stay as long at it would if I was on your server tho.

[Niiro]

After a few days of trying to clear Ravana EX, I'm wishing I pushed to clear it before Eso weapons came out. The ones that are willing to stay and repeat the fight are far and few in between, and the rest are rage quitters, dense and terrible, or both. I am so tired of being so close to finishing Ravana's song and dance past Final Liberation, then some fucker rage quits and it's just a chain reaction from there.

This wouldn't be nearly as infuriating if I wasn't MCH for my savage static and need the hive weapon since it'll take 3 weeks to get my eso weapon. So right now I'm just salty as hell because it seems no matter how good I get, there's some incompetent douchebags that rage quits after a few tries even though trials are meant to be attempted multiple times until you get it down.

If your static asked to change to MCH why the hell aren't they helping you.

[Kaisha]

If your static asked to change to MCH why the hell aren't they helping you.

This. Already had to clear Rav 20 times for static reasons.

[Carth]

If your static asked to change to MCH why the hell aren't they helping you.

Work schedules, school, etc. They pretty much don't ever play in the morning, and the only time we can actually form together is on the weekend, late night. I plan on asking them if they can do Ravana instead of Alex Savage, but we do have a rep lined up for me if I can't get my weapon in time.

Should note my static is also my FC which is just starting to get into endgame. Most of them have been running off of eso welfare and never looked into Ravana, let alone Savage.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Guess it's more of a flow thing. I never had issue voking the .5 and keeping it in spot when it becomes targetable. Another thing you could easily do is voke the oppressor right before the .5 pops and you'll have hate on .5 and can go in place just fine..but eh always found it easier to just pull Oppressor to where you slide in and keep .5 where it spawns and (depending on Normal/Savage) you swap sides depending on where they fall after jump.

Then again..I noticed on DF A1 people love to tank Oppressor to the left/right rather than front/back, so I can see why it can get kinda fuckey.

Largest upside to tank swapping the main Oppressor is nobody having to voke>rangeattack to pickup .5, imo. I couldn't care less about the stability of the actual tank swap but fuck if I'm gonna waste my TP/MP doing Lob/Hawk/Metsu Hadoken.

In A1S after red lights go off I would just, from the back, 1 > voke > 2 > 3-while running to position with Grit off.

[FHT]

I plan on asking them if they can do Ravana instead of Alex Savage, but we do have a rep lined up for me if I can't get my weapon in time.

Does that mean they will replace you if you don't get your weapon in time? or does it mean they will let you go as what you prefer? If its the latter good, if its the 1st option.. I'd say its a bit of a slap in the face to make you go throu the struggle & replacing you if its not fast enough.

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Also; since my last A1 post I went into 5 more different party, one of which could clear..

Did that thing with the tank swap, how that lolWAR wanted it to be done early, it did confuse people more than anything. that last tank (PLD) stood north the whole time & never moved, confusing me on which boss to pull. Tried to pull Oppressor back to South which he pulled back with Provoke/Lob.. making them go to 9 stacks & wiping the party.

Giving up for tonight.. Hopefuly the DF will be less idiotic tomorrow
http://i60.tinypic.com/b6uhef.pnghttp://i58.tinypic.com/21n1wef.pnghttp://i62.tinypic.com/fjzyg1.jpg I didn't ragequit, the whole party did before me.

[Niiro]

This is why you do Alex NM first thing on Tuesday, by Thursday pretty much all the competent people are done for the week.

[AoE]

This is why you do Alex NM first thing on Tuesday, by Thursday pretty much all the competent people are done for the week.

I remember someone saying this so I did it and was done with all the Alex normal runs within an hour thanks to ballin-assed lots.

[SamanosukeShiva]

from last page, Fractal > Neverreap if you have beast DPS/tank/heal, all boss literally just burn, trash pull, all the packs after 1st boss can be pulled at once and burned down easily too, the pull that random group usually split into 2-3 pulls.