FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[3.141592]

Everyone that I've had transfer from and to my server just bought up a bunch of something cheap on our server but expensive on the other, and ended up making more than they started with. Even if you lose a bit of money somehow, Gil isn't really useful, you should feel comfortable floating around a similar amount.

Yeah... no. Try transferting from anywhere to Gilgamesh. It's a loss on all fronts. And "gil isn't really usefull" is a rather shitty argument, if you try to srsly progress in A4S.

[Elcura]

And "gil isn't really usefull" is a rather shitty argument, if you try to srsly progress in A4S.

So gil isn't that useful. Got it.

[Rocl]

So gil isn't that useful. Got it.

mail me all your gil then

[Elcura]

mail me all your gil then

If like 300k is useful sure. Actually I haven't checked my retainers for gil in over a year.

[Rocl]

that's like 10 hours of food for me man

[Taint]

So gil isn't that useful. Got it.

I spit my drink out...lmao

[Ragnus]

Been fighting with myself when it comes to that kind of thing. I have about 2M on me right now and sub 1M Company Aketons are popping up on the market board. Seriously considering an awesome glamour over dumping that money into my crafts. <_<;

[Neon_Sea]

Just wait till 3.1. Sit on anything till then imo.

[Mira]

^pretty much the only thing money is really useful for, glamours lol(food/pots cost next to nothing to make :3)

[solracht]

Really, this entire conversation only tells me I should've been a lot more demanding as a leader instead of attempting to be a teacher, which I won't disagree with. But that's something I would've liked to have avoided.

Edit: Reason for this because my FC is not endgame-oriented. We're all friends in our FCs and we communicated well. We joke around, don't get mad at each other etc.. We were mainly a relaxed FC and we wanted that mentality for savage as well. If I need to flip a switch and start barking at people, that's a major mood killer and that would've caused my group implode harder than me just leaving.

Someone brought up group goals and that's extremely important - you need to know what you want as the raid leader, what your group wants, and build/lead the team accordingly.

To be more specific with your situation: if you want to take the raid seriously and people in your group don't, the right answer isn't barking at them, it's replacing them (ideally they shouldn't have been invited at all). Reaching a compromise is fine (if not outright necessary) but when people settle for something they don't want at all it just creates unnecessary stress for everyone involved. You just have to accept that some people aren't meant to raid together even if they get along fine outside raids.

Obviously all of this is easier said than done when the raid scene is the way it is in this game.

Either way, it's possible to keep a relaxed/friendly attitude and still clear, they're not mutually exclusive things. You do need to find the right people for that sort of group though (like with any type of group).

[Ragnus]

^pretty much the only thing money is really useful for, glamours lol(food/pots cost next to nothing to make :3)

No joke. I've never had a moment like in FFXI where I seriously thought "How am I going to gear up X job for level Y? Better start farming gil" it's always something like "That would be an awesome glamour item, but it costs a couple million gil. Better start passively saving the money I'm not spending."

I'm not completely complaining though. There was almost nothing as soul crushing as busting your ass for something like Arhat's+1 and seeing the price jump another 10-15% over the sale history. =/

[Taint]

No joke. I've never had a moment like in FFXI where I seriously thought "How am I going to gear up X job for level Y? Better start farming gil" it's always something like "That would be an awesome glamour item, but it costs a couple million gil. Better start passively saving the money I'm not spending."

I'm not completely complaining though. There was almost nothing as soul crushing as busting your ass for something like Arhat's+1 and seeing the price jump another 10-15% over the sale history. =/

I'd rather prices fluctuate then not matter. 2.4 had it right when you could level a job and gear it with i110 melded items. Nobody had to do it, but the game had a market for players and crafters.

[Kaisha]

You figure they'll ever resort to XI methods of making non-raid events that have a gil entry fee?

[Niiro]

lol, no

Gil (and by extension the entire economy) matters less now than it ever has and that's a trend I don't see breaking.

[Rocl]

the realization that multi-slot over single slot glamours won't come until after hallowween ruining my ghost costumes

[Twilight Sky]

The gil issue is one of the few things I'm glad is nothing like FFXI.

[Deuce]

You figure they'll ever resort to XI methods of making non-raid events that have a gil entry fee?

Not gonna happen. There would be too many casuals complaining about how they can't do the content because they only play 3 hours a week and don't have time to farm crystals to pay the small entry fee.

[Ratatapa]

the realization that multi-slot over single slot glamours won't come until after hallowween ruining my ghost costumes

[Hiryo]

I'm not completely complaining though. There was almost nothing as soul crushing as busting your ass for something like Arhat's+1 and seeing the price jump another 10-15% over the sale history. =/

For me its like, how can I afford that Sushi or, how many merits can I get off this Hedgehog Pie?

Thats why I almost want accuracy to be a real stat in extreme roulette (not current expert, but someday when we get something like expert +1 difficulty). Make food something you think about at all combat points in a game. So instead of "is this coil or not", it could be "how much of a shitter do I want to be?/Does this party deserve me eating food today?". lol

[solracht]

if anything they should do the opposite and remove accuracy checks entirely