FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Damane]

its funny on piss easy stuff the message is welcome, on harder stuff its gtfo. the tera solution sounds nice, if not that they should just get rid of the message (but still give the extra reward).

[Kiarax]

I mean, you shouldn't be joining farm groups without a clear regardless. Of course some people won't have cleared a fight but will be perfectly competent, but the grand majority are not going to be. I'm all for just letting it slide, but if you're intentionally joining a farm without even clearing a fight once and not upfront about it you're being deceptive anyway, can't really fault people for giving you shit about it. That said, every "farm group" I join is filled with complete shitters regardless, so I guess it shouldn't fucking matter since people just get carried through a clear and shit up farm parties without the message popping up when they should still be running with learning/progression groups.

[Ratatapa]

I mean, you shouldn't be joining farm groups without a clear regardless. Of course some people won't have cleared a fight but will be perfectly competent, but the grand majority are not going to be. I'm all for just letting it slide, but if you're intentionally joining a farm without even clearing a fight once and not upfront about it you're being deceptive anyway, can't really fault people for giving you shit about it. That said, every "farm group" I join is filled with complete shitters regardless, so I guess it shouldn't fucking matter since people just get carried through a clear and shit up farm parties without the message popping up when they should still be running with learning/progression groups.

Why? thats a stupid mentality

Not because someone doesn't have the win, that they don't know the fight. It could be an alt.

Also most of the time, people with the win fucked up WAY more then people without

[Insanecyclone]

That one guy after all that time waiting on the queue withdraws and it restarts with 1/? on you. Fuck you.

[Dathus]

If SE doesn't want people to get shunned by the message, they need to adjust the rewards to make it really enticing. TERA had it's own newbie buff (Fairy that followed you around) that all players had for the first 10 runs of a dungeon that increased the drop rate of all loot in the dungeon by 50% and was one free reraise. You best believe people would carry the fuck out of newbies to use up their buff.

WHAT?! I would be completely on board with nubs if they had a free RR, as long as it put them in a safe spot. LolDPSLandslide.

Also, if it actually could increase drops in EX/Coil/Etc I bet people would be scrounging for new people in their groups.

Complaint: I want Shiva's spear for my DRG but I highly doubt I'll ever see it if I farm EX. Seeing people with a swarm of her weapons running around Diabolos makes me jealous as fuck.

[The Stig]

Give low level roulette (currently):

50 poetics
200 soldiery
1000 company seals

I will be riding that shit hard everyday that queues in low level would be so much quicker in the system, and as an incentive to stay to the end. Those fucking tank/healer dropouts at the beginning after 50 mins in queue, dick move man, dick move.

[Kaisha]

Give low level roulette (currently):

50 poetics
200 soldiery
1000 company seals

250 sols if it's any dungeon under lvl30.

Fuck Tamtara/Totorak.

[Damane]

Give low level roulette (currently):

50 poetics
200 soldiery
1000 company seals

I will be riding that shit hard everyday that queues in low level would be so much quicker in the system, and as an incentive to stay to the end. Those fucking tank/healer dropouts at the beginning after 50 mins in queue, dick move man, dick move.

i would do low lvls with those rewards, but at the moment i dont give a fuck and just do my daily Experz HM and duty trial. there is just not enough incentiv to go for low level brain-farting

[Edelweiss]

i would do low lvls with those rewards, but at the moment i dont give a fuck and just do my daily Experz HM and duty trial. there is just not enough incentiv to go for low level brain-farting

No incentive to do High either, because of that retarded 110 cap/the fact it ignores materia. They're kind of bad at this incentivizing thing, and that they even hold the notion that any of it was "challenging" is, frankly, laughable.

[Seravi Edalborez]

They should add tomes to low level dungeons period. Make them all an option instead of just one of the Experts.

Best incentive is to either make the low shit not-boring (use of skills over the level sync), or make it rewarding (more tomes or something). I would stomach some lowbies if it was as rewarding as newperson Main roulette every run.

[Sephiroth]

T9 farm parties that can't farm. Seriously, over three hours of runs tonight and I've seen one clear. I've seen all kinds of shit including a wipe during phase 1. Starting to wonder if I really need these i115 weapons for my off classes. To top it off I have shit luck with the drops too, around 25 clears and not one weapon.

[Taim Meich]

I only tolerate farm runs with my FC, outside of that all the T9 farm runs I've joined have been plagued by terrible DPS (getting to third divebombs with Echo? Even with some deaths? Seriously?), constant fuckups (fused golems, thunders to the party, bad meteors...) and lack of knowledge of the fight in general. Lucky for me, I only miss the SCH tome for my jobs, as just farming for the weapons of the main jobs of other people, considering their bad luck, has netted me everything else.

[Sephiroth]

Yeah that's what I've been experiencing tonight. I'm done with T9 unless it's with at least 5 of my Coil group now, just not worth it. I want my Friday night back.

[Seravi Edalborez]

They should remove ilvl limit for premade parties. Couldn't bring someone's alt into T9 (when this char has cleared it before) because they're like 2 ilvls below 105 (incidentally pretty fucking high imo).

[Raldo]

Dang, how does the DF get their strategies? Finally jumped into DF T6 and apparently the norm is to send the yellow-marker person to the tank, then run through it. Shit, my coil team always just made a triangle with the markers. A marker for people without yellow mark, B marker for yellow marked person, and C marker for tank. Nobody had to move except the yellow marker dude (and honey-glazed).

I'm too lazy for this shit.

[Seravi Edalborez]

I joined a "learning" party (really just a FC carrying a couple people) that did that; I wasn't waiting around for no explanation and I instantly understood. However it's the first I'd ever seen of it. LoS in pugs, "working as intended" in static.

[Narol]

Nobody had to move except the yellow marker dude (and honey-glazed).

And the tanks on tank swap, unless you solo tanked it. Really, the target-move method is basically just the triangle method except with one fewer points involved.

Meanwhile, I've been trying to farm T8 lately and it's like... how do people get to these fights while being totally and completely unable to pay attention to ground markers or watch for debuffs on themselves? Not to mention all those "lol I've never watched a video or read a guide about this, silly, relax, it's just a game who cares if we beat it or not" people floating around. It's gotten to the point where I've stopped really caring about being nice and accommodating to abject idiots and instead just chew them out when it becomes obvious they have no business being in any fight involving mechanics you need to pay attention to.

[Shenrien]

And the tanks on tank swap, unless you solo tanked it. Really, the target-move method is basically just the triangle method except with one fewer points involved.

Meanwhile, I've been trying to farm T8 lately and it's like... how do people get to these fights while being totally and completely unable to pay attention to ground markers or watch for debuffs on themselves? Not to mention all those "lol I've never watched a video or read a guide about this, silly, relax, it's just a game who cares if we beat it or not" people floating around. It's gotten to the point where I've stopped really caring about being nice and accommodating to abject idiots and instead just chew them out when it becomes obvious they have no business being in any fight involving mechanics you need to pay attention to.

To a certain degree I fall under this category, I don't care if we win or lose it wont make me upset, add stress or shift my mood one way or another. I'll get annoyed tho if people are intentionally fucking things up or unable to comprehend the most basic shit, like ballistic missile and not knowing how 1-2-3 work for it.

[Andradi]

No incentive to do High either, because of that retarded 110 cap/the fact it ignores materia.

What gear over 110 has materia, or do those roulettes ignore ALL materia (surely not)?

[Taint]

Already a useless three peat drop for my coil group

DRG hands 3/4 weeks with no DRG in raid. 3.0 foreshadowing is real.

Finally did t11 this week. DRG body (and BRD feet)

The streak continues, DRG drop on every clear in FCoB.