FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[solracht]

Is there some kinda unwritten rule list when it comes to drops there?

yes, take everything you want and laugh at the crying

[BaneTheBrawler]

Going in with a full alliance is the best route, imo. You have enough people to force Triceratops camp, like I got my FC to do the other day. Everyone in the zone shifted to us, not the other way around. Most fun I've had in Diadem.


edit: also, unwritten rule: Need on 210, greed everything else, don't change jobs.

[Ragns]

Average DF group:


Also fuck people recognizing me in DF meaning I can't ragequit after 2 wipes.

[Rocl]

edit: also, unwritten rule: Need on 210, greed everything else, don't change jobs.

can't Need in DF =)

If you're going in PF or FC there's likely to be actual written rules (like need 210, greed everything else)

[Toshi]

Full vit/fending PLD stopping and marking every mob before pulling in Pharos hm. The blm said "erm.. thanks for the marks". I don't think PLD got the meaning

Run felt so long

[BaneTheBrawler]

can't Need in DF =)

If you're going in PF or FC there's likely to be actual written rules (like need 210, greed everything else)

o. i didnt notice.

[Alistaire]

Average DF group:


Also fuck people recognizing me in DF meaning I can't ragequit after 2 wipes.

"Sorry (person you know), these guys are too derp for my taste tonight." /leave

Bonus points for "I'll take the hit if you wanna leave when the party's not full anymore."

[Lujei]

What idiot thought it was a good idea to make it so you can't be in a queue when doing LoV? Half of the reason I play mini-games is so I don't have to sit around town bored while waiting.

[Rehn]

All the 3.1 stuff have so much HP. I felt so sleepy after my 45 min void ark run on MNK. There was no wipe, so I was even more surprised at why it took so long. Guess people feel even 1-2-3 is below them now and just half-afk instead.

Only saw 1 PF for thordan ex learning party ever since I came back, and it didn't even fill. PVP is a bit dead now since 24 man is so frequent. I should have waited till 3.2 for story shit, since I finished it in 2 hours or so.

I like the game's combat, but it was painfully evident that without pingzapper, playing MNK was a bit of a nightmare. Randomly eaten combos and shit that won't register (or "reset") is frustrating to say the least.

[Destinye]

Yeah most peopel who care/are already doing Thordan has it on farm status now, so gl getting learning parties. Especially on Sarga, people tend to move fairly quick.

[Korialstrasz]

What idiot thought it was a good idea to make it so you can't be in a queue when doing LoV? Half of the reason I play mini-games is so I don't have to sit around town bored while waiting.

Probably the same one that thought locking people out until the next daily reset for quitting a tutorial match was a good idea.

[Lujei]

For the current system, our main focus is giving priority to player freedom, with these issues being resolved through communication within parties.

Yes, because that has certainly helped before.

We understand some feel that not all issues can be resolved through discussion and it can be difficult to communicate with each other, but we would like to keep an eye on the situation for a little longer.

I have to wonder if they even look outside the Japanese-player bubble when doing this "considering." In my groups where this happens, it's not "difficult," it's "impossible."

That being said, I've actually started having better pick=up groups in Diadem lately. Two in a row in DF where we actually all agreed on lotting rules for 210s and, even more surprisingly, followed them.

Edit: Regarding http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...atory-Missions

[Destinye]

No matter how much shit people want to/wanted to give XI (and DQX), their content design was..so much more logical even if it was a grind at times. Trying to keep things balanced to the point you KNOW that if say Gatherers can't loot on gear drops they won't bother to even do anything..yeah, you have a problem. Gatherers are usually there for the gathering stuff that the people fighting can't lot on, but if gatherers would suddenly stop doing it..that means they were mosstly there for easy 210s.

Either way, with XI not doing active development anymore, they definitely should get Matsui or Kitase on content design. Balance is all well and good, but a lot of the changes he want to do is just....

[FHT]

For the current system, our main focus is giving priority to player freedom, with these issues being resolved through communication within parties.

Yes, because that has certainly helped before.

I saw that this morning and I nearly spilled out my coffee no joke, this guys is in his 30s and still belive Santa will come give him goodies if he is a good boy.

We understand some feel that not all issues can be resolved through discussion and it can be difficult to communicate with each other, but we would like to keep an eye on the situation for a little longer.

I have to wonder if they even look outside the Japanese-player bubble when doing this "considering." In my groups where this happens, it's not "difficult," it's "impossible."

Clearly not, in fact I believe they do their best to turn a blind eye on the problems encountered in the EU/NA communities probably out of lazyness, cause who would want to sort such a mess on top of pleasing an incredible number of crybabies? As you said it its impossible.

They probably believe that we'll be able to sort out the general EU/NA community behaviour on our own, which is again incredibly lazy considering they do nothing to force a feel of community need on us.

[Taint]

No matter how much shit people want to/wanted to give XI (and DQX), their content design was..so much more logical even if it was a grind at times. Trying to keep things balanced to the point you KNOW that if say Gatherers can't loot on gear drops they won't bother to even do anything..yeah, you have a problem. Gatherers are usually there for the gathering stuff that the people fighting can't lot on, but if gatherers would suddenly stop doing it..that means they were mosstly there for easy 210s.

Either way, with XI not doing active development anymore, they definitely should get Matsui or Kitase on content design. Balance is all well and good, but a lot of the changes he want to do is just....

They need to throw balance out the window (to a degree) and make gearing up multiple jobs a thing.

Players are left out by choice that way. Leveling in this game is extremely fast and easy, having a flavor of the month would do more good then bad.

FFXI did this effectively. MNKs were terrible for HNMs, but they release savage and everyone jumps on the MNK bandwagon. DRK was the best DD for a while, then WAR, then SAM. Yes as the crown changed heads people bitched for a moment and then jumped on the new bandwagon.

It would give people stuff to work towards beyond my main is capped, AFK until 3.X and it would really allow SE to open up the game design.

[Ragns]

FFXI did this effectively. MNKs were terrible for HNMs, but they release savage and everyone jumps on the MNK bandwagon. DRK was the best DD for a while, then WAR, then SAM. Yes as the crown changed heads people bitched for a moment and then jumped on the new bandwagon.

Don't forget where it all started:


Every PLD or BRD I know have been MIA from the FFXIV endgame for months while gearing their new job. At least for those that don't own multiple characters to break this limitation.

[Taint]

That's hilarious. We actually had a BLM union in my LS, it was funny looking back on it but annoying at the time. They would demand loot or wouldn't show up to HNMs/events lol.

We had BLMs with Ridills that couldn't even equip them.

[Silenka]

As it should be. Being forced to come BLM for 90% of events was rage-inducing, but you did it because shit wouldn't get done right otherwise. BLM preferential treatment 4evar~

[Elcura]

I wonder what the random complaints would be if this game were that imbalanced?

Actually I don't, I already know lol

[BaneTheBrawler]

Why not make gathering drop chests? make it based on, say, your gathering skill, with the chance to get a higher tier chest based on perception. finish a node, chest spawns.