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  1. #8441
    Ridill
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    Considering you gain 13 (I think?) whole natural accuracy going from 50->60 and they removed all accuracy from healer gear it's only going to get worse.

    All you can do it start melding that ACC materia.

  2. #8442
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    I wouldn't put too much weight on A5S being downed already. Healer and Tank dps was always something raiders do to overcome lack of gear not to mention the first 2 turns normally have a weak DPS check compared to the final 2 fights.

    In a way though, the damage nerf to tanks basically means the meta now shifts to accumulating as much aggro as needed in tank stance then switching to dps stance once the mob is firmly secured. In essence, tanks are going to need to ride the enmity line to optimize.

  3. #8443
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriarch View Post
    sounds like an average patch

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    what the fuck is the point of sweet gnomefish

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    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-STR-3.2/page2

    1020 STR, 1395 VIT

    459+628 = 1087

    At full i240 with STR melds, our AP will be 42 points above what full STR was at the end of 3.1.

    Commence the QQ.

    Can a BG Maths pro confirm this please?

  6. #8446
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    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SNUA

    (1018 STR + 1394 VIT) * .45 = 1085

    +/- a few points due to race and yea, that's correct.

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    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Oh dear, Mentor Roulette requires completion of all the extremes. Not bad(though it means I can never join) but it wont filter out the carries.

  8. #8448
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    To be fair, who the fuck wants to do Extreme Primals in DF?

    That's really what's stopping me from joining.

    Belated edit, stolen from the OF, describing my day today (and probably tomorrow. And the day after.):
    http://i.imgur.com/nrQtxHV.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/SNUA

    (1018 STR + 1394 VIT) * .45 = 1085

    +/- a few points due to race and yea, that's correct.
    Thank you very much.

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    Oh man, I can't wait to check out Xeno's chat now. Muh Fell Cleave (Kappa)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lujei View Post
    To be fair, who the fuck wants to do Extreme Primals in DF?

    That's really what's stopping me from joining.

    Belated edit, stolen from the OF, describing my day today (and probably tomorrow. And the day after.):
    http://i.imgur.com/nrQtxHV.png
    Oh I didn't think about it like that. Damn.. if how Trial Roulette likes to pick Bismark/Ravana, no doubt Mentor Roulette is going to be tossing Ramuh and Titan.

  12. #8452
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    This just in:

    Square Enix is completely incompetent and their idiotic change made....DUN DUN DUN DUNNN! Slaying accessories still superior most of the time.

    Tank Earrings vs Slaying Earrings, Lore. Assuming ShO for Spell Speed Weight (SwO is slightly higher and still comes out behind)

    stat weight source (Slightly outdated in that STR is now worth 0.45 and VIT is worth 0.45)

    vitality +60, skill speed +34
    vs
    STR + 56, crit +49

    1.8 AP from the bonus 4 vit, but

    Secondary stats! 3.53600 vs 7.44.
    1.8 + 3.536 = 5.3360. This is a smaller number than 7.44. DPS loss.

    Any piece with two secondary stats on it not named accuracy vs any tank piece with parry on it will dumpster the tank piece even harder. I think the neck's superior, I don't know I'm not going to bother mathing out every accessory.

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    Expert dungeons seem to be getting easier and easier to heal with each update when it should be the opposite. This is an iLvl reset, the tanks should be getting their faces punched in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyttyn View Post
    This just in:

    Square Enix is completely incompetent and their idiotic change made....DUN DUN DUN DUNNN! Slaying accessories still superior most of the time.

    Tank Earrings vs Slaying Earrings, Lore. Assuming ShO for Spell Speed Weight (SwO is slightly higher and still comes out behind)

    stat weight source (Slightly outdated in that STR is now worth 0.45 and VIT is worth 0.45)

    vitality +60, skill speed +34
    vs
    STR + 56, crit +49

    1.8 AP from the bonus 4 vit, but

    Secondary stats! 3.53600 vs 7.44.
    1.8 + 3.536 = 5.3360. This is a smaller number than 7.44. DPS loss.

    Any piece with two secondary stats on it not named accuracy vs any tank piece with parry on it will dumpster the tank piece even harder. I think the neck's superior, I don't know I'm not going to bother mathing out every accessory.
    Don't forget the part where the overall nerf to tank damage makes tanking outside tank stance even more difficult.... unless you're an Almighty Warrior

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    excal (maybe ALL OF PRIMAL????) shit the bed and i'm mad

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    Surely they're just testing the log-in queue system works now on a per-data center basis.

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    Just dc'd from Hyperion and stuck in a real queue that can't be "canceled to ignore." Error when the (10 minute)queue finishes lol

    Edit: just refreshed lmao this is great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiryo View Post
    Just dc'd from Hyperion and stuck in a real queue that can't be "canceled to ignore." Error when the (10 minute)queue finishes lol

    Edit: just refreshed lmao this is great
    .

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    ya, all of Primal is shutting down.

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