FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Stromgarde]

tbh, it's pretty fun with the right party setup, like 4 healers or 4 DDs. It's also neat for those that don't have everything at 60, since you can bring level 1 classes in and try them out.

It feels more thought out than Diadem, at least, even if it's basically just a grind. Definitely not rescue-XIV, though.

You can also get completely assfucked by RNG, which is both fun and terrible. I had a floor where no abilities were allowed whatsoever, but also got item locked, so we couldn't clean the no abilities debuff.

(also, that means no removing/adding Cleric, so there's a slight gamble for healers).

Item lock has an exception for the enchantment-clearing item.

[Yukari]

Clearing Floor 50 gets you a Gelmorran Potshard which can be turned in for a T5 Materia, 3 of them for a Minion, and 10 for a Mount.
They also have a low drop rate in the brown chests that drop potions and phoenix downs. I've seen two of them in in a combined ~120 floors.

But yeah, overall it could definitely use things to spice things up like random mini-boss spawns, and if not guaranteed silver chests from each boss, a guaranteed +2 or +3 for both weapon and armor for clearing floor 50.

Any T5 or noncrafting/gathering?

[agrotc]

Battle only, of course.

[Damane]

They should have brought back nizul isle lamp floors lol

[Edelweiss]

Adding NMs that drop rare pomaces or Potsherds would be nice. Also bosses giving anything, even a token +1/+1.

The basic system in place has promise, but they still need to at least port over the other stuff that made Nyzul Isle and Salvage a thing (besides relevant gear, since that's never happening for anyone but casual scum). Different floor objectives or something that could force an NM to pop. I guess maybe add in rare glamour drops or Dated 1.0 gear for fun via optional objective completion.

Casuals would like that, right?

[Alistaire]

Leave it to df to outdumb SE's braindead content. Do df 41-50, end of 49 nobody has a single upgrade. Vote abandon, explaining you really don't want to waste a 41-50 save, not even being a dick and ditching which would be a dick thing to do if someone got an upgrade but no, completely screwed by rng and they wanna plow through anyway.

So I go ok, kick me then, /sit 10 feet from the portal, and say "afk", and they still don't kick. Bout to just log to an alt.

[octopus]

Should have just left. Who cares, you gave your reasoning.

[Taint]

I really think it should be on a 30 minute timer with 5 floor saves. Going 50+ minutes with bads or 50+ minutes without an upgrade is extremely annoying.

And yes the bosses should give auto +1/1 or something. Boss floors feel like such a waste.

[Destinye]

I just find it sad people are defending this as being "perfect" content and "don't do it if you think you should be "handed" upgrades." Like, you can really tell which players actually did content in this game and which hasn't.

[BaneTheBrawler]

i did floors 1-20 last night. was fun to shoot the shit with my buddies again after a few months of not really doing anything, but my god was the content itself boring. hopefully it gets interesting later.

[agrotc]

It can certainly get more tense on the later floors if you go in without a healer between the stronger mobs, more frequent penalties on the floors, and traps but it stays pretty much the same throughout otherwise.

[Alistaire]

i did floors 1-20 last night. was fun to shoot the shit with my buddies again after a few months of not really doing anything, but my god was the content itself boring. hopefully it gets interesting later.

Maybe when they add to it but 21-50 isn't a whole lot different.

[Destinye]

For the most fun, have 3 owls sleep lock you till resist then 2 minataurs decide to play merry-go-round all without a healer or someone who somehow has no Phoenix Downs.

[Lujei]

Yeah, you can get into some crazy situations, that's the fun part about it, really. I just wish the crazy situations weren't so rare.

I think adding random NM spawns to it would help considerably.

[Fiye]

I like floors 41-50 because you're trying to get past stuff without aggroing and killing as little as possible.

I hope they add more objectives than 'Kill all the monsters'.

[Taint]

I like floors 41-50 because you're trying to get past stuff without aggroing and killing as little as possible.

I hope they add more objectives than 'Kill all the monsters'.

You want to hit 60 asap, for max upgrades, so don't skip mobs until then.

[Kaisha]

If you full clear through to 40 you should be 59-60 when you start 41-50 anyhow, or at least will be after doing the minimum needed to proceed to 42.

I just wish the floor layouts weren't so damn small and simple, and it's all identical across the environment types, besides the one Tamtara'ish room that's an Ethernet Port shape instead of a square.

[Alistaire]

You want to hit 60 asap, for max upgrades, so don't skip mobs until then.

I don't think you should skip mobs even after that point. They still melt, and while silver chests drop from them rarely 1 upgrade can save a whole 1-50 run.

[Destinye]

Noticing a hell of a lot more wipes on floor 41-50 now that a lot of people have at least 1-2 weapons done so guess late starters are coming into it now lol. Seeing people do the dumbest shit (trying to pull 2 rooms full...)

[Lujei]

Noticing a hell of a lot more wipes on floor 41-50 now that a lot of people have at least 1-2 weapons done so guess late starters are coming into it now lol. Seeing people do the dumbest shit (trying to pull 2 rooms full...)

That's not too stupid, depending on the party makeup.

We were lucky enough to get a run with PLD/SCH/SCH/SMN on 41-50 and spent the last 4 floors pulling half the floor. We did Manticore two of them, though. That run was extremely fast.