FFXIV Random Complaint Thread II: DPS can't count to potato

[Dotsudoku]

PLD was my main until RDM appeared, and I assure you it was never enjoyable in dungeons, lol. Always swapped to WAR for tomes

[Twilight Sky]

Just had a BLM in the level 67 dungeon that I'm almost certain didn't cast a single Fire IV.
Nearly built enough LB to use LB2 and then another LB1 on the final boss.
It's not like Enochian is even really a thing now so I'm just completely baffled.

ARR rotation will live on.

[AlastorTGN]

PLD was my main until RDM appeared, and I assure you it was never enjoyable in dungeons, lol. Always swapped to WAR for tomes

When I levelled WAR and DRK I didn't use PLD's for dungeons in HW anymore either, but now we have AOE and we're supposed to be so good I thought it's be different, but I don't think it's PLD I think it sounds like tanking if the stuff about general aggro and stuff is true, if even DRK's aggro is fucked then I don't know what to think.

[Meph]

I haven't had any problems so far, guess I had shitty DPS with me. a couple of flashes and then tab-target every single mob. that new aoe-attack is utter bullshit tho

[Gokulo]

As a healer I definitely noticed mobs going yellow and orange more than ever

[AlastorTGN]

Interesting, what's your issue with it? I hate it's lack of emnity but someone else on here was okay with it so it might just be me.

[Icarian]

I'm not having issues with hate on WAR, I did have some trouble holding hate while leveling, but once I hit 70 and bought some tome gear I just went to old Overpower x2 with the occasional butchers block to secure hate, then spam Storm combo for the rest of the fight/pull.

[Dotsudoku]

When I levelled WAR and DRK I didn't use PLD's for dungeons in HW anymore either, but now we have AOE and we're supposed to be so good I thought it's be different, but I don't think it's PLD I think it sounds like tanking if the stuff about general aggro and stuff is true, if even DRK's aggro is fucked then I don't know what to think.

Nothing anyone has said leaves me to believe there's been an adjustment. DRK is the unique case. We KNOW their AoE was halved in potency, which would lend to a reduction in enmity generated. Otherwise, keep in mind that you're going to see a lot of RDMs running around, and they have a relatively low-cooldown instant AoE attack, which they'll be following up with their AoE rotation which again has virtually no buildup. That's not something tanks had to deal with much in HW.

Play like you're dealing with DPS who are slightly overbuffed and you should have no issues(most of my tanks haven't, and I DPS fairly aggressively)

[Twilight Sky]

Basically, spam AOE threat more than 2-3 times.

[Yuri-G]

can confirm that RDM AoE spam, especially in early dungeons, is a problem lol. I'm using Diversion on cooldown and actually saving Lucid Dreaming for enmity rather than MP use

[LinktheDeme]

When I levelled WAR and DRK I didn't use PLD's for dungeons in HW anymore either, but now we have AOE and we're supposed to be so good I thought it's be different, but I don't think it's PLD I think it sounds like tanking if the stuff about general aggro and stuff is true, if even DRK's aggro is fucked then I don't know what to think.

I haven't had a single issue with PLD just make sure you're using flash in shield oath(twice) before dropping shield oath if you're ballsy enough to do that. Then start spamming the aoe and throw in a flash like every 3-4 aoes depending on where you are on the bar. The blind effect is nice.

Tank DPS as a whole went down since we can't spec into STR and they redid the formulas again so that's part of it.

Can't speak for DRK but WAR and PLD were fine for me aggro wise in AOE situations and bosses. The only time I had issues on WAR was when I wouldn't run through butchers block nor pull with defiance for an early butcher's block combo. On PLD I don't even have to because shield swipe and circle of scorn are strong but I would recommend haloning if it gets close.

[nyttyn]

Aggro issues are just going to get worse as the expansion goes on as left-side tank gear does not get nearly enough STR to compensate for the lack of STR on the right-side pieces of gear, nor weapon damage scaling, meaning that DPS classes scale dramatically faster than tanks do. Doubly so since Tenacity provides a secondary stat's worth of damage gain, which is nowhere near enough.

Alternatively, depending on how important Tenacity's defense raising effect is, people might just resort to i270 alexander slaying accessories. Resulting in Vit vs Str accessories mk 2: revenge of son Str.

[Kaisha]

More likely to see them bump up the threat modifiers than to give tanks more dps output.


And relevant to Random Complaint, I am sick and tired of Stormblood's theme because it's in every fucking tune wrote for this expansion.

[FHT]

More likely to see them bump up the threat modifiers than to give tanks more dps output.

I will speak the extremes there but may as well drop tanks DPS by 90% and increase their enmity generation 300% then... On a serious note I would love for this scenario to happen, all tanks to use iLv270 STR gears all the way just to see people go on the OF and bitch because Tanks are not DPSes..

[Buffy]

Server just went kablooey

2,000 people trying to log into excalibur right now

[Carth]

And relevant to Random Complaint, I am sick and tired of Stormblood's theme because it's in every fucking tune wrote for this expansion.

Noticed that too. They reused that theme a fuckton for just about every zone. It becomes insanely apparent in the Othard zones.

[Katlan]

I hope SE is embarrassed for how awful there servers are for this xpac.

[SamanosukeShiva]

Release day is not official release, it's still stress test guys /s

[Katlan]

Noticed that too. They reused that theme a fuckton for just about every zone. It becomes insanely apparent in the Othard zones.

Also this, not a fan of the 1-2 minute repeating tracks that are heavy on repeating during that 1-2 minutes

[Carth]

Looks like the entirety of the Aether Datacenter got obliterated.