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  1. #10941
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    3 wipes before the 2nd boss of gubal... ahh, no thanks. I'll take the penalty pls

  2. #10942
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    It always locked it to my recollection. Bind effects in general do.
    I just recalled Holmgang being unique in that aspect. Maybe it changed in HW. I'm almost sure you could alter facing in 2.0. Maybe not once PvP was out.

  3. #10943
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    You rarely win in DR solo because:

    If you play tank your healer definitely sucks, also likely your DPS have no idea how to AOE.
    If you play healer your tank sucks, can't keep hate and definitely cleaves the party randomly. Also your DPS don't dodge.
    If you play DPS your tank will single pull, run in circles and your healer will never nuke and it's the longest run of your life.

    Recently had a tank who liked to face iron giants at the party did big pulls with no CDs and when he got called out on both those things he just left without saying a word. I swear the instant queues for tanks and healers have spoiled them into mediocrity.

  4. #10944
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    At least you didn't get kicked for calling then out.

    /sigh

    Super salty they waited until right before Yojimbo to kick me.

  5. #10945
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    You rarely win in DR solo because:

    If you play tank your healer definitely sucks, also likely your DPS have no idea how to AOE.
    If you play healer your tank sucks, can't keep hate and definitely cleaves the party randomly. Also your DPS don't dodge.
    If you play DPS your tank will single pull, run in circles and your healer will never nuke and it's the longest run of your life.

    Recently had a tank who liked to face iron giants at the party did big pulls with no CDs and when he got called out on both those things he just left without saying a word. I swear the instant queues for tanks and healers have spoiled them into mediocrity.
    In my experience in the past, healer felt the least subject to the whims of fate solely because your influence on that spot represents an increase of possibly-zero to "some", as opposed to other roles. Though to be honest I've seen my share of decent healers in DF these past weeks.

  6. #10946
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    I swear the instant queues for tanks and healers have spoiled them into mediocrity.
    I want to say after the changes they have made it was to be expected...

  7. #10947
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    I leveled PLD simply for the queues. The DPS who engage the mobs and the healers who cast a cure or regen before I stop running drive me loopy.

  8. #10948
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    If you play DPS your tank will single pull, run in circles and your healer will never nuke and it's the longest run of your life.
    Oh my god this was my exact Baelsar's Wall run last night. The DRK pretended to be a noob (I'm assuming, he might have actually been one but I don't really think so), grabbed the first packs and literally ran in a fucking circle while I was trying to nuke shit on RDM. I kept having to adjust my position, losing dps, and of course most of the mobs were on me/the healer. DRK died in short order and apologized "lol I'm nubie" no you're not, you're an idiot. SCH's gear broke and he had to put on vastly inferior gear for the final boss...sigh.

    Can we just make DRK a dps so the edgelords can't hurt anyone but themselves, and make BLU a tank instead?

  9. #10949
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    NO. NO MORE DPS. our queues are so bad already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    I leveled PLD simply for the queues. The DPS who engage the mobs and the healers who cast a cure or regen before I stop running drive me loopy.
    Same here, I leveled PLD/DRK for the utility it brings me after a day of work where I cant wait 25 mins for a queue, and for my friends/fc.

    I could tolerate people impatience and stupidity simply because the job DRK was fun to play, now I would rather burn everything as RDM while Yoshi keeps it where it is, as I am scared he will bend down to the flooding of OFMorons saying it should be nerfed cause they can't play BLM properly.

    Oh and BLM Raise anyone?!

  11. #10951
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    BLM won't get raise because Yoshi is DPS ONRY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silenka View Post
    BLM won't get raise because Yoshi is DPS ONRY
    Not just Yoshi P though, when it was requested on the OF half the replies are like "but the LORE!"

  13. #10953
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    I did my first speed run of the military base. I'm a 50pld. The other pld was 65. I just tried to keep up. Feel like such a noob. But catching up.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vagus View Post
    I did my first speed run of the military base. I'm a 50pld. The other pld was 65. I just tried to keep up. Feel like such a noob. But catching up.


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    Don't worry it's just the initial few mobs (skip), kill a trash pack to kill for key, then a big pull (skip), then another trash pack for key, then first boss.
    You just need to learn/observe those 2 skip pulls. The rest you have to do normally/fight anyway.

    All in all, you just need to make sure you pull/sprint ahead and touch the teleporter. Providing no one else took aggro and you successfully teleport, all mobs will freeze.

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    Don't skip adds on the part with Cid. His AI is stupid, must follow a track, and will stop to kill every fucking add and return to said track.

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    Oops I thought he meant the 2nd dungeon lol

  17. #10957
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiye View Post
    Don't skip adds on the part with Cid. His AI is stupid, must follow a track, and will stop to kill every fucking add and return to said track.
    Cid also has a habit of returning to his last point before engaging with a mob. One time queueing as healer I had a tank just drag mobs from the get go to the second cannon set with Cid alongside us. After the pack died, Cid just walked and noclipped through the door that gets blown open after the 3rd boss is downed to return to his last non-aggro'd point, and then walked all the way back around the long way. Was a good waste of one minute.


    I really miss Flash on WAR. Wish Overpower didn't need a target to hit. Or SE doing some shit about making mobile targets have a slightly widened melee range so you can actually hit moving shit as tanks/melee without having to be fully in their model to compensate for lag.

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    So I generally avoid PF due to the global attitude players display but last nigt I told myself "why not?" and tried three different party to farm Laksmi items.. well..

    1st farm party we kill her twice with no issue then people start leaving for unknown reasons..
    2nd time, a 1 fail = kick everyone play like shit and we die 3 times prior to disbanding.
    3rd time I join a "Wolf lootmaster party" for which I did not care as I just wanted accs, but twice we got a bunch of 3 people who did not read properly and decided to kill themselve during the fight and not to do anything because they realised it was a lootmaster party and were not happy with it..

    I also don't see what people problem is with RDM Raise? Surely it can raise lives but it wont raise people dead braincells, out of those 7-ish run I did in the two last parties I ended up raising everyone but we died to enrage at 5-12% each time cause people kept dying, let alone the 3000MP Drain.

  19. #10959
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    PF is always a roulette. Sometimes you get a kickass party but most of the time you get a shit one. Lakshmi in particular, I'm not sure how people are bad at it. There are only like 3 mechanics you have to worry about. la chancla, OT cleave and killing adds with bubbles. That last one is what gets most people though.

  20. #10960
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    Okay this jump in armor defense is some serious bullshit. Had to stop leveling WAR at 68 to craft some pieces and it honestly feels like I got a defensive CD on at all times.

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