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  1. #1241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elcura View Post
    Yeah, OK. Also Garuda is possible to lose GL on. T12 you'll lose GL on adds and aerial phase.
    Possible, but not baked into the fight. And I totally blanked on the plume+tether in T12, so I'll grant you that.

    re: turn 2, I think it's fair to invoke the Second Half Primal Caveat here. Balls are integral to the boss and a speedier kill leaves more time for the boss proper. But they are mostly harmless, MNK-friendly and only outstandingly bad PTs would suffer on the way to the boss in the first place.

    In any case, there should be a distinction between times when the MNK is punished with lost GL for fulfilling a fight mechanic vs. times when no one is able to DPS at all.

    Also,
    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    All 2 hour ability icons in XI (for ones that applied a buff) were an orb with "SP" in it, it just became short form for any ultimate ability/attack.

    I assume the original "SP" icon was just shorthand for "special".

  2. #1242
    Relic Shield
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    Can't go balls to the wall DPS because tanks lose aggro on t10

  3. #1243
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    Turn 2: Yes, but MNK suffers the most loss from this regardless.

    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    In any case, there should be a distinction between times when the MNK is punished with lost GL for fulfilling a fight mechanic vs. times when no one is able to DPS at all.
    Why? Any time there is a period where no damage can be done MNK loses the most for it (mechanic or invulnerability). DRG upkeep is 1 GCD, NIN upkeep is 3 oGCD, MNK upkeep is 1 oGCD, 3 GCD at BEST. That's kind of the point.

  4. #1244
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    Because any time when damage can be done relatively uninterrupted MNK is the best DPS.

    It's almost like.....some kind of.....balance.

  5. #1245
    Yoshi P
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    Heaven forbid you use a combo in your rotation...? I mean not every job is lucky enough to have what is essentially a DK-bitch as standard. Stop whining.
    The reason having to use DE makes things complicated is because we have to keep track of a debuff that isn't ours. Getting DE up after a mistake also screws with the rotation and timers of stuff a lot more than getting DK up after a mistake does. And screwing up a mudra isn't as bad as losing GL or something, but the loss in dps is still easily noticeable. Additionally with the way timing works out in a lot of fights, screwing up a single mudra or being off in timing can be the difference between having vulnerability up on all 3 scourge adds in t13 as they spawn, or having no vulnerability at all on them.

    Both nin and mnk have plenty of small things that make them both pretty complicated. Saying one is easy and one isn't is a silly thing to do imo.

  6. #1246
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    Wiping to Garuda HM.

    Multiple times.

    That is all.

  7. #1247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Because any time when damage can be done relatively uninterrupted MNK is the best DPS.

    It's almost like.....some kind of.....balance.
    Except now it isn't. BALANCE. Also, what is relatively uninterrupted? Because in every fight I'm certainly being interrupted and influenced by mechanics. Is it just T8? It's just T8 isn't it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deadgye View Post
    Both nin and mnk have plenty of small things that make them both pretty complicated. Saying one is easy and one isn't is a silly thing to do imo.
    And welcome to the conversation. That's nearly exactly the point I was making several pages ago. Glad you caught up.

  8. #1248
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Because any time when damage can be done relatively uninterrupted MNK is the best DPS.

    It's almost like.....some kind of.....balance.
    Whatever magic you're using to avoid being targeted by any mechanics, please share it. MNK is borderline strongest if completely uninterrupted, but the situations where that can happen are few and largely irrelevant. (Primals? Give me a break.)

  9. #1249
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narol View Post
    Wiping to Garuda HM.

    Multiple times.

    That is all.
    People have become so reckless / clueless with her on my data center thanks to Nexus being a thing it's probably the HM primal I see the most wipes on during roulette.

  10. #1250
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    Sabotender Bailarina in the wee hours of the morn.

  11. #1251
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    5th t13 clear, and yet another repeat/wasted weapon

    Spear(waste), sword, spear(waste), staff, sword (waste)

    Along with every single chest dropping repeats this week

    Dat rng

  12. #1252
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    Looks like Sarg just pooped itself... Got booted, couldnt get on, now back and 66 in queue.

    Edit: And is continuing to poop itself.

  13. #1253
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    Ragnarok is shitting up too, had two 90ks in the past 10 mins.

  14. #1254
    Prime Minister of Salt

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    Just gotten a few in Balmung :/

    On a side note: Fucking tanks that make macros for 123 combos- why do you do this??

  15. #1255
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    /p HERE I GO, {Fast Blade}!!! <se.1>
    /wait 3
    /p FOLLOW UP! {Savage Blade} <se.3> <se.2>
    /wait 3
    /p FEELING THE PAIN NOW, HUH? {Rage of Halone}! <se.9> <se.9> <se.9>

  16. #1256
    Online Dating DOES Work!!
    Sonic Ripoff of the Houe of Weave

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    Just watched a 4-man turn 9 video, ugh lol. I just want to win once.

  17. #1257
    Prime Minister of Salt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyall View Post
    /p HERE I GO, {Fast Blade}!!! <se.1>
    /wait 3
    /p FOLLOW UP! {Savage Blade} <se.3> <se.2>
    /wait 3
    /p FEELING THE PAIN NOW, HUH? {Rage of Halone}! <se.9> <se.9> <se.9>
    2/3

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-lNbKkRMKlR...s1600/rage.png

  18. #1258
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    Still zero left side fending drops in coil. Got our 4th DRG hands though...

    Raid gave me and the OT pitty carbonfibers.

  19. #1259
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    Only party macro I've seen is a healer who had every ability with a /p letting us know what spell she was casting and how the power of her love would keep us alive.

  20. #1260
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narol View Post
    Wiping to Garuda HM.

    Multiple times.

    That is all.
    I joined a roulette trial last night, got Garuda HM in progress, new person soldiery bonus, and as soon as I zoned in, they vote abandoned. I am not sure how that is even possible at this age and day....Garuda wasn't hard back in the day, surely not now with better gear available. I was in an utter loss for what I had just witnessed. Scrub players, man. I wonder if I had the same instance you did since we share data center lol.

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