Overwatch, It Isn't New Anymore

[Corrderio]

The autism when someone plays hanzo/bastion/junkrat all game when it's obvious to everyone else it's a bad pick for the map and they say nothing and never change all game and you lose because of them.

Fuck those people.

Don't remind me. This was my final game last night:

[Tokitoki]

QP doesn't matter.

[Nitsuki]

Apparently it matters if you're gold in dmg and elims!! /sarcasm

[synistar]

I need to clown around more in Quick Play. I had a round where I said "Omnics only" so it was 5 bastions and me as Zeny. Yea I know it wasn't going to work, but still stupid funny to not give a shit once in a while.

[Meian]

I don't really have an issue with Junkrats having gold. If they are doing damage then I am not sure the issue. Team comp problem? Seems to be case by case. If you need a healer/tank and someone isn't performing well they should probably consider doing it unless they are terrible at it and someone more adept at those should handle it.

[Tokitoki]

Garbagemouse's whole playstyle is to spam choke points with AoE grenades which is why they usually end up with a higher damage count. The problem is that even if they have high damage, a lot of that is likely being healed since they are spamming from a distance. This is useful on maps with tight spaces, but has limited use on open maps and on Attack (since you're trying to push those points).

In addition, even though you have high damage, the other team is building healing ult on you and you may not be getting substantial elims. This being guys that you do more than 10% damage to, elims that allow for a team to push. So while you're spreading out damage, you may actually be hurting your team more because of ult charge being built, one DPS being more pressured to get opening frags, and the difficulty of hitting more mobile targets (Pharah, Genji, Widow, basically anyone who can get above the team).

Obviously this can be a case by case basis depending on the skill of the actual player, but most of the Trashrodents I've seen are just spammers.

[kisada]

yeah, problem with spamming damage is that heals get spammed too, and the mercy/ana ult gain rate is absolutely ridiculous right now. it's kinda fine if the rest of your team is following up either with kills or with more damage simply to zone them out/break rein shields, but then you're presented with the issue of whether you can take the ensuing teamfight at an healer ult disadvantage.

add in that zarya is an actual hero in this game and now you really start seeing why nade spam can be detrimental.

[Tokitoki]

I didn't even think about Zarya. She can get full charge if she shields herself and a teammate in grenade spam. And I mean 100% charge, not just high charge.

[kisada]

i've been learning zarya over the past week and now that i have my timings right i can ratchet up to 100% to open a match against most junkrats.

[Meian]

I can understand Zarya being an issue, but damage, well, people are going to be doing damage regardless. Unless you plan to get headshots with Hanzo/Widowmaker they are going to get healed up fast regardless of who is being hit. Junkrats damage are higher bursts seems safer outside of Zarya and he eats Rein's shield as well. Makes them back up as well to heal if the shots are landing well.

Not like Junkrat isn't getting his ult either from the shots (again, minus Zarya).

Definitely more of a case by case thing.

[Tokitoki]

Basically it comes down to other DPS being more effective for eliminations, and while Junkrat may put out more damage overall because of his AoE, it isn't generally as focused and is more easily avoidable. Junkrat definitely has his place; breaking Rein shield quickly and cutting off choke points when you're on Defense being the main draw to play him.

Most people pick him as a general DPS and that is where the issue is. There are heroes better suited to that role.

[Melena]

Had a QP match yesterday where I was bronze on D.Va for damage with like 2100, and silver on objective eliminations with 2. Of course we had 2 Lucios, D.Va, Reaper, Mei and a Road Hog, so no surprise damage was fucking low, no one died on the other team, and we got fucking steam rolled.

[Tomiko]

New PTR patch:

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20294485

Spoiler: show

GENERAL UPDATES

General

Static cameras are now supported in spectator mode
Team names can now be edited in custom games
Raised the volume of Hanzo's Dragonstrike voice line while wearing the Okami/Lone Wolf Skin
Heroes hit by Ana's Nano Boost have a new voice line that informs other players
Increased frequency of Reinhardt's "barrier failing" voice line
Custom Games can now be paused

HERO BALANCE UPDATES

Ana

Nano Boost
Ultimate cost has been increased by 20%
Biotic Grenade
Radius has been increased from 3 to 4 meters
Developer Comments: So far, we haven't seen any indication that Ana is too strong overall, but her ultimate charges a little too fast, especially considering the impact it can have on a match. Also, her Biotic Grenades are getting a small boost to help her hit multiple targets.

Widowmaker

Widow's Kiss
Scoping-in animation time has been reduced from 0.5 to 0.3 seconds
Developer Comments: This change will help Widowmaker acquire new targets more quickly and speed up her reaction time in fast-paced situations.

Junkrat

RIP-Tire
Ability now activates more quickly
Developer Comments: Junkrat can be an extremely effective hero in the right hands, but RIP-Tire often felt underpowered when compared to his counterparts.

USER INTERFACE UPDATES

General

Several minor aesthetic changes have been made to the game’s Main, Social, and Options menus
Removed several stats that were duplicated for certain heroes throughout the career profile
Controller users can now choose between two aiming modes
Dual-Zone mode (New default): The vast majority of the thumbstick's range moves with reduced sensitivity and relatively high acceleration. However, when the thumbstick crosses to the outer 10% of its range, it will move with high sensitivity and relatively low acceleration. This mode will allow for more precise aiming, while still allowing players to turn around quickly.
Exponential Ramp mode (Old default): As the thumbstick moves toward the outside of its range, the sensitivity is ramped up exponentially. The acceleration remains relatively high throughout.
Camera movement in Spectator Mode has been improved
Social Features

Certain commendations will now appear less frequently during end-of-round voting, and others will appear more frequently (e.g. Most Gold Medals and Torbjörn's Armor Packs Created)
BUG FIXES

General

Enemy players that are knocked down no longer lose their red outline
Fixed a bug that prevented modified key bindings from saving after relaunching the game
Fixed a bug that kept players from binding Take Screenshot to other keys
Heroes

Fixed a bug causing Bastion’s bullet shells to eject backwards while in Configuration: Sentry mode
Fixed an issue preventing Hanzo’s Sonic Arrow from appearing when selected
Fixed a bug preventing Junkrat’s statistics from correctly tracking RIP-Tire kills
Fixed an issue preventing Mercy’s staff from appearing in some highlight intros while wearing the Valkyrie/Sigrún skin
Fixed a bug causing Tracer highlight intros to render at a lower resolution when accessed from the Highlights menu
Fixed a bug that allowed Widowmaker to use her Grappling Hook on basketballs
Symmetra's “Car Wash” achievement now correctly lists the number of beams required (6 instead of 7)
Fixed a time calculation issue that was causing Zenyatta's “Rapid Discord” achievement to be more difficult than intended
Fixed a bug that prevented Junkrat’s “Roadkill” achievement from being awarded after obtaining 4 kills with RIP-Tire
Maps

Fixed a bug that allowed the payload to heal players even when they were negatively affected by Ana’s Biotic Grenade
Fixed a bug preventing the health bars on the Practice Range bots from displaying the effects of Ana’s Biotic Grenade
Fixed a bug preventing sprays from being applied correctly to some surfaces on Eichenwalde
Fixed a bug allowing some heroes to be seen in the sky when viewing certain highlight intros on Volskaya Industries

[Corrderio]

RIP-Tire underpowered? What?

Also boo @ no Satan (Mei) nerf.

[Meian]

RIP-Tire underpowered? What?

Loud, takes time to appear. Counterable by blowing it up and doesn't go through shield/barrier. All this compared to most other ults.

Also boo @ no Satan (Mei) nerf.

Why?

https://www.overbuff.com/blog/2016-0...-tanks-edition

Was expecting the Ana ult nerf, but glad it wasn't MAJOR and the buff to grenade is always welcomed~

[Corrderio]

It's more about her ice wlll/cyro combo being a get out of jail free card for her.

[Meian]

Better nerf Tracer/D.va/Reaper/Genji... in general anyone who can escape... especially Tracer, since can heal all her damage!

McCree: *looks at Mei in cryo with Flashbang ready* "smh"

[kisada]

these are good changes

[Tomiko]

Will the Widow change make her playable again or is she still shit tier? I don't play her, I'm just curious how much the change will affect her.

[Corrderio]

Better nerf Tracer/D.va/Reaper/Genji... in general anyone who can escape... especially Tracer, since can heal all her damage!

McCree: *looks at Mei in cryo with Flashbang ready* "smh"

I mean more in the context of she can take a lot of damage, freeze herself, then in a split of a second after coming out of her freeze throw up an ice wall to block off any attackers. I dunno why it just pisses me off nearly getting her killed just to see her pull that combo and get away.