Overwatch, It Isn't New Anymore

[kisada]

heard she killed dva in 6 seconds. also heard that people are using her to put the teleporter on a health back, stealth to healers and kill, then just tp back

[Corrderio]

I love the short, but bleh as her being attack. There's already enough retarded DPS as is.

[Qalbert]

[synistar]

Wow the US got rekt on Anubis.

[Intrinsic]

Everyone is free to Korea, if they don't dominate this tournament it'll be a pretty big upset.

[Karbuncle]

Its a shame but It'd be like losing a sprint to Usain Bolt. I mean, yah he won but he was expected to win cause he's a goddamn super human.

Just like Koreans in gaming.

[Qalbert]

[Karbuncle]

Yah her abilities look real nice for a push, also a nice ambush hero for attacking... I really like what they've got going with her.

I wonder if the teleport mine can be destroyed, I see no reason it couldn't... if it is I could see Winston being a good counter to her like other squishy DPS, as she apparently only has 200 HP thats sub 4 second kill.

I like her Kit >_>, I look forward to never being able to play her cause I'm stuck healing.

[Tarage]

Yah her abilities look real nice for a push, also a nice ambush hero for attacking... I really like what they've got going with her.

I wonder if the teleport mine can be destroyed, I see no reason it couldn't... if it is I could see Winston being a good counter to her like other squishy DPS, as she apparently only has 200 HP thats sub 4 second kill.

I like her Kit >_>, I look forward to never being able to play her cause I'm stuck healing.

It is not destroyable currently.

[Karbuncle]

It is not destroyable currently.

Even better, I wonder if that'll change though...

[Corrderio]

What's her base health? 200?

[Karbuncle]

From what I've heard, yes

[Corrderio]

I see.

Well she does seem fun to play. Assuming I get a chance after the hype wears off where I'm not the only tank or support.

[Tokitoki]

I would bet they make it destroyable before it hits live.

[Celeras]

wow she's like an offensive mei. just shutting shit down

Like there's a defensive Mei

Also nobody seems to be aware of her passive: see critically damaged enemies through walls. P'cool.

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[tyven]

She going to get nerfed so hard. 60 round gun is cray

[Meian]

Sombra is going to be either very good or very niche for counter picks. Either way, Winston is going to make her life terrible.

PTR will have one hero limit for quick match, they will see how players react to see if it will go public. Which means people going to fight for Sombra first pick. Arcade mode will have a mode that doesn't have class limit.

As for release, her hitting PTR next week probably means will be like two weeks until release which I think was the case with Ana?

Edit: Also, sad no Sombra skull mask skin, hopefully one of the Epics...

[Karbuncle]

A lot of characters are niche pick now but I think Sombra has the potential to very powerful in top tier play. Her tool kit looks like it has the potential for push power in the same way Ana does. A good Sombra is going to be a force to reckon with.

unfortunately I imagine many will not get full use of her kit. I personally can't wait to see her in play league tier. I imagine Throwing Mine on health pack (Maybe Hacking it to prevent enemies from screwing you) > Stealthing to kill a Healer and warping back is going to be a huge use of hers on Attack. Throwing your mine behind an enemy line using it and Ulting to break their frontline also seems possible.

I don't think she'll be very "Niche", she'll be a power pick with any team with a Rein, and possibly even Torbjorn, if I saw her Ult correctly, she could completely cancel a Turrets Molten Core phase by rendering it useless, and while that won't help pro level plays quite so much, for lower tiers of play where Torb is more common, this could help.

Also I have no information on how powerful her gun is per shot so I dont know how good a DPS she's going to be, a lot of bullets could just me... weaker soldier... and Soldier is already sub-par in every reliable way to Mcree, who has exactly 6 fucks to give. Is this info out there, do we have a DPS on her?

[Meian]

I am referring more to competitive play where there are several characters that are often picked all the time like Lucio, Zarya, Rein, and Ana. Reaper, McCree, Winston, Tracer, Genji seem to find their spots in there depending on the situation.

Sombra's kit doesn't seem to give the indication that there will be a middle ground there. If Winston is a true counter to her and with him being active already who knows. If her ult is that godlike (which is probably the main reason for picking her) then it may not even matter if Winston is there. Certainly interesting this feels like their answer to Lucio, Zarya, and Rein as opposed to nerfing them harder.

Do we have numbers yet on how long the effects last of Hack/EMP? That is probably what will be touched upon the most.

Those lines that existed in the game commenting on about there being someone there, referring to Sombra's cloak, makes me wonder if it will play every time she is cloaked near enemies meaning the team can anticipate EMP and prepare for it.

[Karbuncle]

I'm not seeing Winston being a counter to Sombra, at least not a "Hard" counter, more just a harasser like how he can harass other DPS (Minus Reaper). I love Winston and I know how versatile and powerful he can be... but hack Winston if he jumps you and he can't shield(Depending how quick you are) or leap away to escape if things go bad, he'll get melted like fuck if you're with your team or near your team, which is almost always the case in competitive play since playing Solo ranger is rare aside from a Genji, and in most cases even Genji is without eye-shot of his healers and team or able to quickly escape, he's just initiating. Sombra will likely play a lot like Genji and Tracer, being a flanker-initiater, and while Winston can harass Genji and Tracer effectively, Winston relies on killing his target and leaping away... Hacking him prevents him leaping away meaning best case scenario that Winston will be trading his life for MAYBE one of the enemies life...

In worst case Scenario of being alone, a Sombra can hack a Health Pack, which reduces it respawn time, and she can literally out-heal Winstons beam with a Big Hacked Health pack, at the very least forcing him to retreat, I imagine hacking a small Health Pack can keep you alive long enough to kill him if her DPS isn't trash... That and you put your Mine by your party so if you're in a rough spot and Winston jumps you and you're not confident on 1v1, Mine-Return to your team to reset.

He'll harass Her like he can harass any DPS but I don't see him being a Hard Counter, especially if you consider if he jumps a Sombra whos even within earshot of her team, that the Winston is assured to die due to not being able to leap away. So instead of the possibility of a Quick kill > Retreat, he'll always be trading or worse if he's Hacked by a Sombra upon jumping in and shes completely isolated.

IDK, he may prove a competent harasser to her but thats only because he's just that awesome... and Target priority will probably keep him initiating on support, Sombra will probably be low priority unless shes got Ult up.

Also at 200HP she has about 4 seconds before Winston kills her... I really wish I knew her SMG damage output lol ;;

Edit: Though, the harasser part of Winston can apply to just about anyway, but I think I know what you mean...