Overwatch, It Isn't New Anymore

[Melena]

Sym is a fairly decent counter to Tracer as well since her beam gun just locks on. More often then not, tracers just time skip away from me and go find some other hapless person to sodomize. Fuck her in the ass though, especially if i'm pharah, having to try to place rockets where she's going to wind up at.

[Wulfgang]

Played with Mal and Killer against a good Tracer yesterday; I was Roadhog. It's just toss and pray with the hook, but I killed her a half dozen times; good news is that it is a 1HKO as long the the hook mechanics don't get all fucked up and she ends up behind you (happens fairly often with blink causing issues). A lot of times I'll either preemptively toss as I come around the corner to catch her flat-footed or wait until she's used 2-3 blinks in a short time frame and looking away from me before trying.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Guess I might have to practice Hog then. Real issue is basically just dealing with a Defense-team Tracer on Offense because my go-to for her (Torb) isn't always ideal for Payload Offense or king of the hill (w/e the best 2 of 3 both-offense one is).

I know a few times I've gotten her with Junkrat trap'n'bomb but it's so hit or miss.

[Wulfgang]

Junkrat can be decent as well; I get her trying to teleport into the side room under the arch at Anubis with the trap pretty often. The concussion mine can also be tossed and immediately exploded in close quarters with her for 120 damage. My favorite is when she just ports into a grenade you happened to launch into the landing area by dumb luck.

And competitive just launched on XBone along with the McCree / WM nerfs. I am still holding out hope they push it to PS4 before this weekend (given they said it would hit next week for both platforms).

[Seravi Edalborez]

Getting a little better at aiming gun with Roadhog but really need to practice hook. I can barely hook anyone who isn't just standing still or walking straight back.

[Zeb]

Got told last night that Roadhog is a counter to Pharah...

[Karbuncle]

I thought it was? He's the most Counter-Pharah tank there is, theres classeswho do it better in the offense/defense categories, hes just the only tank that can counter her effectively. Reinhardt is useless, Zarya's beam has a limit to range and Dva's bullets have huge distance drop off in terms of damage, Roadhog is the only tank that can effectively eliminate Pharah (Hook > Blast), just requires good Hook skills.

So I mean... he's the best counter for pharah in the tank category... but as far as a hard counter I don't know enough to make that judgment.

[Tyrath]

Got told last night that Roadhog is a counter to Pharah...

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[synistar]

Meh, even Roadhog's right click can't do too much to an airborne Pharah. I'd just ignore her or shield others and let someone else bring the fly swatter.

[Tyrath]

Yeah I was mostly kidding cuz funny comic.

I'd say Torbjorn, Bastion, Soldier, Widow and Hanzo are the best counters to Pharah.

[Tokitoki]

Roadhog is definitely a good Pharah counter. She can't move too quickly in the air so it's a matter of range.

[Shenrien]

Literally anything is a good counter against Pharah in the air, she's a slow moving target shoot where she's drifting. The common player likes to flutter down slowly rather drop like a rock which is the only method of getting out of the way of fire. Same goes for common Mercy players.

[tyven]

i cant shoot a pharah out of the air of my life depended on it. luckily i've found my new calling as a reinhart. it is lit

[Intrinsic]

I've had pretty good success hooking Pharahs out of the air. I play a lot of Roadhog though, even a slightly moving Pharah is a tough hook for someone without the experience.

[Karbuncle]

Every match I've been in, the enemy team has steamrolled me with this set up>

1 Reinhardt
2 Soldier's
1 Mercy
1 Junkrat
1 Doesn'tmattergotcarried

Every. Single. Match. I've now lost 3 Competitive matches in a row to a team that feels like a group of unfaltering MLGers... I'm not even ranked... these are just prelims...

[Ksandra]

btw, what do people recommend for like an arena junkies like website? I used to main Torbjorn and would steamroll on it in regular play.

In competitive I don't bother because since it's stationary it's easy for a team to just coordinate and explode my turret about .01 seconds after putting it up. So I want to see what others recommend.

[Malithar]

Literally anything is a good counter against Pharah in the air

There's a certain joy you get killing airborne Pharahs with Symmetra. :D

[Wulfgang]

I just played with Ryko's crew in a 6v6 premade against the best Pharah I've ever seen in my life. After seeing god awful Pharahs in pubs all the time, a great Pharah is fucking terrifying. We finally countered as a team with me on Zen for Discord and a 76; worked well, but she killed me on Mercy like 6x before that. Good Pharahs generally will not be in hook range very often and the biggest issue is where she lands after you hook her; half the time, the odd vertical angle (particularly if you hook her while moving vs hovering) sends her behind you.

[Celeras]

"Percentile" added to MasterOverwatch, I guess now that score is gone they needed something. Cool metric rather than just a number. "89th percentile, top 11%."

[Corrderio]

I just played with Ryko's crew in a 6v6 premade against the best Pharah I've ever seen in my life. After seeing god awful Pharahs in pubs all the time, a great Pharah is fucking terrifying. We finally countered as a team with me on Zen for Discord and a 76; worked well, but she killed me on Mercy like 6x before that. Good Pharahs generally will not be in hook range very often and the biggest issue is where she lands after you hook her; half the time, the odd vertical angle (particularly if you hook her while moving vs hovering) sends her behind you.

Don't remind me. I've seen gameplay of good Pharahs.

They're a friggin nightmare.