Overwatch, It Isn't New Anymore

[Seravi Edalborez]

There's that too but you pretty much know for a fact anyone level 20 and under who picks a sniper is basically a non-factor. Though I've seen Widows as high as 50 and 90 who still sucked. I'm only 40 myself because I can only take 4-5 matches of solo queue before I need a mental break.

[Daydreamer]

There's that too but you pretty much know for a fact anyone level 20 and under who picks a sniper is basically a non-factor. Though I've seen Widows as high as 50 and 90 who still sucked. I'm only 40 myself because I can only take 4-5 matches of solo queue before I need a mental break.

Widow is just hard to play using a controller, which is mostly why anyone under level 20 sucks with her. I tried doing training with her and stood on the moving platform trying to hit moving sentrys and missed most of the time. Meanwhile for some reason with hanzo it just seems far easier to hit those shots.

If I tried it on PC I'm fairly certain I could blast away with her, but on ps4 it's just incredibly difficult to be that precise with a controller and I have mad respect every time one kills me and the kill cam shows some insane shot.

[Seravi Edalborez]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/c...ing_is_a_core/

Reddit really not liking Blizzard giving the ok to hero stacking. I don't really understand it on a lot of levels, in fact I'm pretty confident that if there's any stagnation it's because nobody wants to experiment with money on the line (pro) or they're easy quitters (casual).

I feel that comparing the situation to similar shooters or MOBAs isn't really a great example either because Overwatch has enough distinct differences that it can and should be allowed to be its own thing. It's no better than comparing every TCG in existence to the baseline of MTG, or every fighter to Street Fighter 2.

For the most prominent example, the reason 4-6 Torbs works to the extent it does is because it's easy to use and requires more than one switch to answer in most situations. And once it gets going it's harder to stop because of Molten Core chaining. It's something you need to answer immediately instead of just feeding and zombieing, which is honestly a player problem and not "just" a character problem. 2 Rein and 1-2 Bastions/Widows/Pharahs. RIP.

I can't really comment on the 2Lucio 2Tracer 2Tank KotH meta though, or the (I guess) infamous 6 DVA rush. But if anyone thinks those will still be "the meta" 6 or even 1 month down the line I think they're wrong.

[Wulfgang]

I find it interesting that being rank 53 on PS4 in competitive places you in the top 37% of players (looking at my MOW profile). The percentile boost for each level above and below 50 is massive, trailing off in the mid-to-high 50s; at 58, you are in the top ~10% of all players. I thought the threshold would be much higher (e.g. rank 65 = top 10%); the bell curve is pretty narrow in this game.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Could be similar to Hearthstone, where beyond rank ~15 or so is only ~20% of the playerbase (old statistics probably, from before ranked reward tiers every 5 ranks).

Actually it's probably exactly like that because in both ranked systems you can't just go break even and still climb. Need to actually have a good win rate. I can't speak for the playerbase as a whole but my win rate pretty much doesn't fluctuate from ~50% (in quick play anyways, it's really bad in comp [25%] even with just our premade sessions lol).

Also, man Blizzard really does it with the small touches. I only just noticed (at least on regular skins) that Soldier's gun has an ammo counter and a Helix icon that's blue when ready and yellow when on cooldown.

[synistar]

My guess is that the ranking system should have been closer to Heroes of the Storm. The median of players should be at around ranks 35-65. Instead, the game has a steep bell curve that peaks at 48-52 and drops off fast at 40 and 60 respectively. Makes me wonder if it's possible to be in the single digit ranks at all in this game, since a rank of less than 10 would in theory represent 10% of the playerbase, but in practice is maybe <0.0001%.

I'm pretty much staying off of competitive even after having a decent experience during my calibration matches. Don't feel like chasing numbers. Plus, I would never get to try my lesser used heroes at all if I were tryharding all the time.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Turns out the best way to learn how to play Roadhog is to end up in a crazy fucking lobby of 6 Roadhogs attacking Anubis. 76% hooks. Still need to practice swatting down Pharah though.

Same group also went 6 Zarya on defense right after (lost though), and 6 Junkrat attacking Numbani after that (won) before lobby broke. Had to be a party of 4 in there (was solo queue) because they all instapicked the same chars.

[Tokitoki]

Played a bit this morning. Was holding off a Roadhog, Mercy, and Pharah as Pharah, letting the rest of my team deal with a Symmetry, Hanzo, and a Reaper. The 5 of them couldn't even handle that and never made it to the first point on Anubis. I was the only one to get over there and get any progress.

How can 5 people not take out 3; the enemy had no healer or tank because I as keeping them busy.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Played a bit this morning. Was holding off a Roadhog, Mercy, and Pharah as Pharah, letting the rest of my team deal with a Symmetry, Hanzo, and a Reaper. The 5 of them couldn't even handle that and never made it to the first point on Anubis. I was the only one to get over there and get any progress.

How can 5 people not take out 3; the enemy had no healer or tank because I as keeping them busy.

Reaper flank is unstoppable, people just run into Symmertra, and Hanzo's hitbox is fullscreen. /s

e: I'm a little sad when a quickplay match I'm in ends up 6 Torb on defense, even if I'm ON that team, because the other team just never gets it together. I didn't even need to Molten Core once.

[Tomiko]

Did a couple quick play games this morning while waiting for friends to log on to Destiny since I said I would help them.

Got put in a game where it was basically 7 vs 5. The opposing team was steamrolling us and at one point I saw the Pharah on our team behind the enemy team with her ult up where she could have took them all out. I ended up calling them out over team chat before leaving the game (after it ended).

If you join someone's game, you shouldn't be able to be put on the opposing team because of situations like that. I know some players will actually play, but it's games like this where it's bullshit.

On a happier note, the Weekly Brawl for this week is pretty fun. Support Characters only and you can only have 2 of each Hero max. Was able to play one game Defending Anubis where we won. The mode is pretty balanced, but the defending team definitely has an advantage because of all the defensive abilities.

[Seravi Edalborez]

On a happier note, the Weekly Brawl for this week is pretty fun. Support Characters only and you can only have 2 of each Hero max. Was able to play one game Defending Anubis where we won. The mode is pretty balanced, but the defending team definitely has an advantage because of all the defensive abilities.

Initially I felt the defending team had a massive advantage because of Sym (and because for whatever reason people think we need 2 Zenyatta and 0-1 Lucio or Mercy). But I think as long as the attacking team is 2Lucio 2Mercy 1Zen it's fine. 2 Lucio and a Mercy is practically a requirement.

It just usually sucks because most Lucio can't aim, most Mercy don't shoot, and most Zen just stand out there and die. Sym is kind of whatever. It's fun but people don't really adapt to it.

[Demosthenes]

Finally starting to feel confident in Zarya.

[Wulfgang]

I just healed for 37,448 in a 4-round KotH map on Lucio. That has to be like top 1% worldwide for max heal; that is absolutely insane. Most payload Mercy games are like 7,000 / 35% healed; this game was like healing 5.5 games of that in a row.

[Tomiko]

I just healed for 37,448 in a 4-round KotH map on Lucio. That has to be like top 1% worldwide for max heal; that is absolutely insane. Most payload Mercy games are like 7,000 / 35% healed; this game was like healing 5.5 games of that in a row.

You'll be #30 once it updates.

http://masteroverwatch.com/leaderboa...ry/besthealing

[Wulfgang]

You'll be #30 once it updates.

http://masteroverwatch.com/leaderboa...ry/besthealing

rawr, just updated

[Wulfgang]

Back down to 50. Mal and Char I need you sirs! Some people are just blind in this game. I think playing Mercy you tend to have better awareness just to survive, but it's mindboggling how unaware people are.

[Seravi Edalborez]

Been messing around with some heroes I never play as (Tracer, Mei, Pharah) and getting good results. Only ones I'm still awful at are like... Reaper, Zarya, Genji, Widow, Hanzo, Mccree.

e: Who in the absolute fuck thought nothing was wrong with 2 Tracer and Mccree on Gibraltar defense (others: Mei Dva Lucio). And then near the end someone also changes to Reaper.

[Malithar]

Back down to 50. Mal and Char I need you sirs! Some people are just blind in this game. I think playing Mercy you tend to have better awareness just to survive, but it's mindboggling how unaware people are.

Off the next 3 days. I've been hopping on at night after work but seems I keep missing the train. Been doing some quick plays to stay sharp with full randoms, but the AIDS cancer is frightening. Usually play 2-3 and call it a night lol.

[tyven]

Off the next 3 days. I've been hopping on at night after work but seems I keep missing the train. Been doing some quick plays to stay sharp with full randoms, but the AIDS cancer is frightening. Usually play 2-3 and call it a night lol.

u should switch to PC so you can once again be a part of 6 man parties with a real winner.

[Wulfgang]

Back to 52. I feel vaguely like a hamster in a wheel; lot of effort to largely stay in the same place.