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  1. #2521
    Ridill
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    You're starting late, so being behind the curve is expected with progress basically being linked to time if you don't cash on stamina.

    Personally, I still think this event is garbage even though the rewards look tempting, especially for a new player. As you noted, you'll have issues with the last stage, with success probably relying on a good dual-wielding Elza if you can find one. Otherwise, yeah, you'll be limited to the mid-tier, which probably isn't worth the stamina since you could instead be progressing the story or even farming into Hero Rings.

    As for leveling, capped 4* should be able to get you to the end of the 2nd island, but you'll start feeling the sting around the ice mountains and such. Since cactaur event is coming up, I'd suggest spending today farming some sacred/holy crystals in vortex and then throwing the weekend exclusively at that to try and get as many people as possible to 80 5*. Depending on what you pulled, you'll want one healer (Refia > Lenna > Roselia > Fina in that order, imo), someone with full break, and then some solid DPS. Tanks aren't really needed for story content, though some optional/event fights may make them useful if you've got Cecil or WoL.

    Once you either finish the current story content or feel you've reached your limit, you're either in the position to farm hero rings (you'll need more achievements, of course) or perhaps more specifically target rank EXP. I'd have to double check on the most stamina efficient stage at the moment, but I'm suspecting it's going to be some of the 6 cost stages in the new area that yield something like 230+. I know Diabolos' island gives around 500, but it's 15 stamina. Would personally prioritize ranking so you can get more sleep/whatever without having to camp the game and not waste stamina. And if we're lucky, we'll get another event like FFT that was awesome with rank gain.

    Since you've missed some event weapons, you'll also want to try and tackle the optional bosses in the farplane as you're able. The katana will probably be your best weapon for a bit, which Lasswell can use if you don't have better. The armor is also solid for it resists. You probably won't beat the demon one for a while, though, even with a decent carry. So don't worry about that. In the end, it's all just lots of little grinding. Most people talking about farming TMs here either spend for additional stamina and/or run bots from an emulator. Manually doing the shit is tedious, especially without multiples of the desired unit.

  2. #2522
    I'm more gentle than I look.
    Mr. Feathers AKA Mr. Striations
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    250'd another Seria. I won't complain; looks like I'll be able to get the rest of the shit I want from this event; better than getting another Cyan or something

    I haven't gotten a 3 metal gods yet since pulling the second, but just got a 2 metal god

    Karma - 2198
    Bonus - 3297

  3. #2523
    Ridill
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    We're getting a free 100% bonus unit tomorrow anyway.

  4. #2524
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    That'll be lovely. I just hope she's not too hard. My base team is okay but a friend can only carry so hard

  5. #2525
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    I basically am relying on friend + my own luneth and can generally take down the boss in 2 turns (which most ppl die but luneth/friend survive). I don't have anything spectacular for Luneth though only 440 attack

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    Better than me. My best unit is a 330 attack Garland. I'm using BCLid right now for the event, and with her I can reliably clear it np, but only cause I can debuff nerf him to hell lol. My lid does have a kit 302 attack though. Idk.

    I'm basically going to rely on a 400 attack CoD friend if she's weak to man eater. Or my 626 lightning friend and pray for the best.

  7. #2527
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    Finally finished my 100 streak this morning, thankfully I didn't crash at the end!

    I'm looking forward to the Maxwell fight. If anyone isn't already my friend, add me for the fight. I have my Lightning with 592 attack using Diabolos and the DKC TM weapon so she does dark damage plus double maneater.

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    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Ajax is the truth; lol I'd take him up on his offer

  9. #2529
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    CoD is probably one of the best units to have/use: Omni-Veil to increase light resistance, Man-Eater and Call of the Void being dark damage.

  10. #2530

    Sweaty Dick Punching Enthusiast

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    You're starting late, so being behind the curve is expected with progress basically being linked to time if you don't cash on stamina.

    Personally, I still think this event is garbage even though the rewards look tempting, especially for a new player. As you noted, you'll have issues with the last stage, with success probably relying on a good dual-wielding Elza if you can find one. Otherwise, yeah, you'll be limited to the mid-tier, which probably isn't worth the stamina since you could instead be progressing the story or even farming into Hero Rings.

    As for leveling, capped 4* should be able to get you to the end of the 2nd island, but you'll start feeling the sting around the ice mountains and such. Since cactaur event is coming up, I'd suggest spending today farming some sacred/holy crystals in vortex and then throwing the weekend exclusively at that to try and get as many people as possible to 80 5*. Depending on what you pulled, you'll want one healer (Refia > Lenna > Roselia > Fina in that order, imo), someone with full break, and then some solid DPS. Tanks aren't really needed for story content, though some optional/event fights may make them useful if you've got Cecil or WoL.

    Once you either finish the current story content or feel you've reached your limit, you're either in the position to farm hero rings (you'll need more achievements, of course) or perhaps more specifically target rank EXP. I'd have to double check on the most stamina efficient stage at the moment, but I'm suspecting it's going to be some of the 6 cost stages in the new area that yield something like 230+. I know Diabolos' island gives around 500, but it's 15 stamina. Would personally prioritize ranking so you can get more sleep/whatever without having to camp the game and not waste stamina. And if we're lucky, we'll get another event like FFT that was awesome with rank gain.

    Since you've missed some event weapons, you'll also want to try and tackle the optional bosses in the farplane as you're able. The katana will probably be your best weapon for a bit, which Lasswell can use if you don't have better. The armor is also solid for it resists. You probably won't beat the demon one for a while, though, even with a decent carry. So don't worry about that. In the end, it's all just lots of little grinding. Most people talking about farming TMs here either spend for additional stamina and/or run bots from an emulator. Manually doing the shit is tedious, especially without multiples of the desired unit.
    Best I have at the moment is a 5* Ramza, and (leveled) 4* Exdeath, Vaan and Refia. Also have 4* Penelo, Vivi, Russel and Luna @ lvl 1.

    Kain, Edgar, Bartz and Arc capped @ 40 (3*).

    Also have the farplane Katana, and I guess I could try the chimera since it's 0 nrg anyway.

    Thanks for all the advice!

  11. #2531
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    Going into the arena and challenging whoever is sitting on the top of my list has gotten me into the top 6000 so far... been fun and some actual challenge right now.

  12. #2532
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aelfinn View Post
    Going into the arena and challenging whoever is sitting on the top of my list has gotten me into the top 6000 so far... been fun and some actual challenge right now.
    This is my plan once I get Cecil to 100. I'm still taking on ppl way higher than myself. Not gonna get the 100 streak this way, but the points are better even w/o the streak. I'm at like 6900 right now

  13. #2533
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    I'm up to 135 vargas and only 15 metal gods. I'm done with this shit until maxwell comes out... hoping she can take the place of one of my DD's to at least get that extra 100% to make the remaining farming more tolerable (still would like 30k to get the 6* mats, the rest of the tickets and star quartz).

  14. #2534
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    Is Rain good enough as a debuff unit 6-star (when he gets it). Vaan has full break but his damage is pretty shittastic.

    Other than that, I should be good once a few more of my crew gets their 6-stars (Chiz, Garland, Frion, Bartz) with my current 6-stars of (Luneth, CoD, Pecil).

    I have 3 arcs and 3 Kefkas, so probably just gonna roll Kefka x3, arc x1 (so I can combine the arcs for the TM and still have 4 mage members)

  15. #2535
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    Any reason to have two WoL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    Is Rain good enough as a debuff unit 6-star (when he gets it). Vaan has full break but his damage is pretty shittastic.

    Other than that, I should be good once a few more of my crew gets their 6-stars (Chiz, Garland, Frion, Bartz) with my current 6-stars of (Luneth, CoD, Pecil).

    I have 3 arcs and 3 Kefkas, so probably just gonna roll Kefka x3, arc x1 (so I can combine the arcs for the TM and still have 4 mage members)
    At the moment Arc is arguably better due to dualcast. That said, I want a few of his TM, so I may combine a few of them at some point for a pair of rods.

  17. #2537
    I'm more gentle than I look.
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    By the time all is said and done, I'll have up to 2 of those 3 kefka w/ DC since I have 6 more ludmilles (and my current DC is on my healer).

    So it'd be Arc, Kefka, DC Kefka x2

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    I need to get a couple more of my shantotto TMs done, but I have such a backlog I'm not sure when that'll happen.

  19. #2539
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    Quote Originally Posted by theshun View Post
    Any reason to have two WoL?
    Very very very few occassions will you want 2 WoL. That being said, you will never need 3.
    I keep three just because I like to remind myself how I pulled 90x and never got Lenna.

  20. #2540
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    Since I pulled WoL duing my 1st 11 pull in the FF3 banner, I've been having some long ass debates between 6* Cecil and WoL(when his & Garland's come out) with a few people on who to use more.

    That being said, I'm kinda torn between which one do I throw the arena pots on :/

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