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  1. #4601
    Iku
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    Phew, just beat 5 man-Gilgamesh. I thought I was gonna get wiped at 2nd threshold because for some reason, he instagibbed main tank one my sealer. Dualcast is truly MVP.

    Cecil
    Cecil
    Noctis
    Noctis
    Refia

    My strategy is letting friend noctis provoking near threshold so he can eat the instadead. After that, I will just let the Saintly Wall (Cecil) proc. With 50% dmg mitigation, it is impossible to die as long as I seal the nasty elements like Wind, Fire, and Light.

    My Noctis is now 1 ATK away from 800. T_T

  2. #4602
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    Gonna have to switch Olive out for Bartz and that irks me since I really like Olive's damage for this, but bad timings really killing me inside

  3. #4603
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    So I tried chamber of crystals thinking they might have boosted it like cactaur dunes, nope they didn't. I know it's a waste but I'm crashing out for the night so no harm in looking.

  4. #4604
    CoP Dynamis
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    Took three tries but ended up beating 5-man Gilg with:

    Lightning: Excal/Chiri/Wind Blitz
    Firion: Kaiser Knuckles/Golem Staff/Water Blade
    Noctis: Excal/Chiri/Thunder Flask
    Cecil
    Luka

    Noctis and Firion just sealed everything because my previous attempts I was skipping water or earth and it made it hard to recover after thresholds. Honestly, didn't find the fight very fun because it reminded me of FFRK where it essentially pushes you into a sub-optimal setup to fulfill conditions.

    Also, it was the first fight that I wished I had leveled my Refia instead of Luka. Before you say level both, I have switched and leveled seven different healers already: Fina, Rosa, Roselia, Garnet, Lenna, Tilith, and Luka. Lenna is the only one uncapped and I don't plan to level any more healers until Tilith is unlocked.

  5. #4605
    Absolute Messenger of Promathia
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    Doesn't Water damage trigger his super Barrier? Can it just be dispelled infinitely lol?

  6. #4606
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    The third time Gilg suffers water damage he will use Break and only Break on the following turn. Its a 300% DEF/SPR buff which can be dispelled and takes precedence over the threshold attacks which get pushed back a turn. So, as long as you have dispel (which you should), it gives you a turn of breathing room.

  7. #4607
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    5 man Gilgamesh donezo. I hard committed to doing it in one shot because if I didn't one shot it with all my shit I would be embarrassed.

    Strat/Units/Notable Equipment & Materia
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    Refia (Dual Cast, Golem Staff)
    Dispel, Healing, Auto Attack(if lower MP than Cecil and healing is OK), Rez (if no other Noctis can do Rez)

    Lightning (Chirijiraden, Deathbringer)
    WIND BLADE and never look back

    Cecil (Flame Lance, Dual Cast)
    Dispel, Healing, Provoke before the phase pushing, Auto Attack if Lightning is dead/my Noctis is NOT going to do Thunder Flask, Stone spell(Golem) if MP is good, Esper(Golem) if Provoke is already up and phase pushing is coming

    Noctis (Excalibur, Kazekuri, Dual Wield)
    (if higher MP than other Noctis) Thunder Flask
    (if lower MP than other Noctis) Point Warp, Cover upkeep, Rez unit

    Random other Noctis had Excalibur (only thing I cared about), same strat as my Noctis


    Huge pic of victory!!!
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    MP got really tight at the end because I was overly concerned I wouldn't kill it with a LB so I was taking my time.

    Here's my friend's picture of his team winning with event/crafted only equipment setup. Best unit he owns is Ling!
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  8. #4608
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    Had another attempt where I gambled on living 1 more turn after putting on Olive's thunder debuff.......I gambled wrong :/

    Mad Salty Runback(-100 Lapis) I'M FREE:

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    I went "Fuck it Notics' LB buff -SHOULD- be enough" and pulled the trigger on Olive's LB.

    Now to decide who to give Freedom to.....maybe Mercedes since I finished her TM twice or Firion.

  9. #4609
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    shera gtfo my pulls

  10. #4610
    Chram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuri-G View Post
    shera gtfo my pulls
    I have barely played the last few days. The shine banner really made me salty (5 10+1's to get a measly 2 shines, no olives), combined with still-shitty pulls on the type0 banner. Almost 100 pulls between the last two banners to get only two banner 4* between both of them.

    I'm out of lapis and don't feel like refilling. So I log in, do a few dailies, do just enough arena to keep in the top 90k (moogle, woo? I have 6k arena points, but no reason to spend them as I have no units to improve).

    I really want to try gilgamesh, but moving allllll the gear around to do that, just to move it all back for arena/events sucks.

    /rant

  11. #4611
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    You've got good units and TMs, it's not too bad. I've put in more than I should have, but I was able to 3/3 the missions in one try with Cecil, Refia, Ling, Lightning, and Noctis. Refia and Ling being immune to paralyze made Electrocute a non-issue when I needed Noctis to re-up Cover, and Lightning was on perma Gale Blitz with Excalibur and fire katana. As others have said, slow and steady wins this fight.

    For some reason, I haven't bothered to get Odin yet. Main mission wise I'm still back at Volcanic Grounds. Too much Duel Links as of late I guess. Silly nostalgia.

  12. #4612
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    Did you build Ling as full-evade?

    Now that there is more info out, here's my new plan (finally just made a damn spreadsheet):
    Greg with mighty hammer and chiri to seal the two worst moves (aoe paralyze, osmose/atkdown). Then I'll put kazekiri and excal on noctis (take care of light and wind, though less critical). Noctis and refia will have water blade (though I'm less concerned with lowered resist than with other moves). Cecil/Refia/Ling will be able to seal earth as needed. Cecil will also have excal and vernard (backup for noctis/greg).
    Hopefully there's enough flexibility to recover if things go a little haywire. Greg will be on diabolos and have the options to do any attacks (normal attack, wind, or divider) depending on damage needed.
    If I'm completely out of mp, I can still seal fire, lightning, wind, and light with just my DPS, and can seal earth/water for only 3 mp on other characters. Now I just need an hour to go do it!

  13. #4613
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coren View Post
    I have barely played the last few days. The shine banner really made me salty (5 10+1's to get a measly 2 shines, no olives), combined with still-shitty pulls on the type0 banner. Almost 100 pulls between the last two banners to get only two banner 4* between both of them.

    I'm out of lapis and don't feel like refilling. So I log in, do a few dailies, do just enough arena to keep in the top 90k (moogle, woo? I have 6k arena points, but no reason to spend them as I have no units to improve).

    I really want to try gilgamesh, but moving allllll the gear around to do that, just to move it all back for arena/events sucks.

    /rant
    good for you on not refilling. that's how Gumi gets you; "oh you didn't get what you want? well if you just spend a little real life money..."

    I'm really loving the game so far the second time around. the gacha update in particular makes it worth playing over the first iteration (I pulled a 5* Rydia on the first Delita banner and straight-up quit last time). but as a long-time gacha veteran (FFRK, P&D) I hear you... they can be infuriating. that's why I am f2p now (or try to be).

    hopefully you get back into it soon. or if not, hopefully it was time well-spent ^^

  14. #4614
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    I don't regret the resources put into the game, or really any game. I know that the alternative is other forms of entertainment like going out eating, movies, drinking, etc. And those all cost more than really any game unless you go full whale in a gacha (I didn't/haven't/won't).

  15. #4615
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    yeah I'm not against it, I'll probably give in at some point. I just keep in mind that I spent hundreds on P&D which I don't even play anymore. did I get my money's worth out of that? eh... not really. I had the luxury of rerolling FFBE during the free summon event tho, so f2p is easier for me than others.

    just got the Phantasmal Blade, loving it. Lightning is just a beast right now. I don't plan on farming TMRs for a while and I have three sword-users and two Dual Wields (once I finish Greg, who's getting all of my moogles), so it was worth it to me. now to finish Greg's awakening materials, hopefully - I'm on vacation this week so grinding will be a pretty low priority.

  16. #4616
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coren View Post
    Did you build Ling as full-evade?
    Nah, wasn't any need. Then again I had 30% HPs loaded up to get Cecil near 10k and both Refia and Ling just below 6k.

    Also, one standout issue with your plan; Greg + Mighty Hammer won't lock Electrocute. It has to be hybrid or magical thunder damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    Mighty Hammer won't lock Electrocute. It has to be hybrid or magical thunder damage.
    Ahhhh thanks. Completely forgot that part. Guess somebody getting that big, bad THUNDER BLADE (or whatever bedile's TM is).

  18. #4618
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    FFXIV Raid event this Friday + People's Choice banner (Noctis, Greg, Chizuru, Refia, Cecil, Zidane).

  19. #4619
    Chram
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    Yshtola looks pretty good but minfilla and thancred seem kinda meh. Wonder what that ifrit raid is gonna be like. Not sure if I'll pull on the people's choice banner seeing as I won't get 5* and I've already got the 3 and 4s already. I'm ready for this type 0 #2 to be over with already.

  20. #4620
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    For new people or those who haven't been fortunate with healer pulls or ludmilles you can't really beat Y'shtola for being a "free" healer.

    Native DUAL CAST (amazing because she's not just a healer, she's a support/healer/mage)
    She has a passive camo to get less likely hit by 50% along with the 5% mp refresh
    Comes with your Cura/Curaja/Raise that healers should come with
    Has the Wind/Stone/Light dps spells
    Brings along Protectga/Shellga
    Her LB is a weaker Golem buff

    did I mention, she's free?

    Even if you already have a Refia and Luka it's worth grabbing Y'shtola just so you can have another healer who can fit in a meta where you might need 2 healers. Y'shtola is that good healer/support/mage instead of pure healing and with her Cleric Stance(+200MAG buff) she is quite the little powerhouse for what people will only define as "a healer".


    If we get the same items to buy as JP...

    Budding Maple Wand (stave): ATT +12, MAG +30, SPR +68 (HP/MP +10%)
    Scion Conjurer's Dalmatica (robe): DEF +38, SPR +45 (HP/MP +10%)
    Scion Conjurer's Pattens (Accesory): DEF +5, SPR +10 (HP/MP +5%)

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