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  1. #1381
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    Faster only in the sense of applying that 10% towards a single unit compared to ~15% spread across five units. The price could still be restrictive enough that it's not even worth doing that. We obviously won't know for sure until the update hits. One thing to keep in mind with TM Moogles (could always be changed of course) is that JP had a limit to them, typically one per event. Even if the price is decent, it likely won't be farmable.

    I'm more excited for that shield and Star Quartz personally. One thing to notice in the event announcement is being able to buy 'better' recipes in the bundle store. Whether those cost Lapis or $ is still to be seen. Could be a legit P2W option if Gumi goes for a cash grab, or could just be a way to earn a bit extra cakes during the event for more exchanges. AFAIK, JP hasn't had any such mechanic in any of their events. Their way of increasing your event earnings is by having event characters give varying % based buffs to the drops. +50% for base 3*, +75% for base 4*, and +100% for base 5* characters usually. I guess in a sense that's another form of P2W by encouraging pulling, but you could always use friend units to increase your gains.

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    Getting the "data failed to load" message.

  3. #1383
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    Said fuck it, did 55 pulls. Really wanted a Garnet to help with summon trophy farming and as bad as it is, it's still the best time to pull for Zidane so far. Pretty good pulls overall, though still no Zidane. Other than wishing I got a Zidane, I don't have any complaints, other than I fell for gambler's fallacy. I had done 33 at first and got all of the good units below. Did 22 more and got Freya, Amarant, a Luna, and a couple of Shantotto. Everything else from those last 22 was junk. Hadn't even seen Lani until the final pull, and my final 11 had 2x Shadows, 2x Lani, Sabin, and Edgar. D:

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    Garland
    Vaan
    Cecil
    Bartz
    Freya
    Amarant
    Luna
    Vivi
    Krile
    Russell
    Fran
    Penelo
    Maria
    Edgar
    Bedile
    2x Kuja
    2x Galuf
    2x Shantotto
    2x Cyan
    2x Lani
    2x Rydia
    2x Anzelm
    3x Shadow
    3x Clyne

    4*
    Cloud of Darkness
    Cecil
    Garnet
    Cerius
    Gilbert
    Kain
    Rydia
    Vivi
    Krile
    Anzelm
    Sabin
    Cyan
    Russell
    Shadow
    Bedile
    2x Luna
    2x Shantotto

    5*
    Duane

  4. #1384
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    Said fuck it, did 55 pulls. Really wanted a Garnet to help with summon trophy farming and as bad as it is, it's still the best time to pull for Zidane so far. Pretty good pulls overall, though still no Zidane. Other than wishing I got a Zidane, I don't have any complaints, other than I fell for gambler's falacy. I had done 33 at first and got all of the good units below. Did 22 more and got Freya, Amarant, a Luna, and a couple of Shantotto. Everything else from those last 22 was junk.

    3*
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    Vaan
    Cecil
    Bartz
    4*
    Cloud of Darkness
    Cecil
    Depending on what you have, once these ppl get their 6* promotions(with Cecil-> CoD-> Bartz->>> Garland in that order), that's a good lineup.

  5. #1385
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    I'll do some daily pulls on that VI banner, I only have Celes and I wouldn't mind Terra or Locke.

  6. #1386
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    I have 3 of them.... just not the one that's getting a 6*. Ugh. Incoming 37 more Locke/Celes/Leo .

    Thinking about dropping another 15 pulls on the zidane banner before it goes poof. Ugh.

  7. #1387
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    "new allies join the fray!"


    except these are all in the game already...


    also, if anyone wants to know, apparently you can get a 4* base from a lucky yellow crystal that started as a blue crystal. hello, Garnet! now I have Lenna for phys healing and Garnet for mag healing, not bad.

  8. #1388
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    Yeah, I've had the double draw, too. I suspect it's for log completion's sake since if you draw a 4 or 5* of a unit with a 3* version, you'd technically lose out on getting them.

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    Another Lani, Penelo, and 4* Fran for my team! Ugh. Zidane you cocksucker...

    Did get another Hayate though, so that's good or something.

  10. #1390
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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Yeah, I've had the double draw, too. I suspect it's for log completion's sake since if you draw a 4 or 5* of a unit with a 3* version, you'd technically lose out on getting them.
    Not sure what you mean by that. I mean yeah, you don't get the 3* version logged if you draw 4* or 5* versions, but there is no double draw or anything, they're just separate units you can get. The crystal upgrading bit mentioned above is just a graphical thing, kind of a moment of suspense of your crystal upgrading, like a slot randomly shaking and moving to a better pick in a slot machine.

    Really wanted at least one Zidane so I could make a powerful DPS and not need to rely on hoarding for Lightning or any of the other 6*s later on so pulled 22 more. Got Zidane on literally the very last one. May have taken 77 pulls plus the couple weeks of 1/2 pulls, but I'm set for awhile now. Have everything from this next banner so won't be pulling for a week, actually letting Lapis build up. Looking forward to 6* Firion with DW, Barrage, Excalibur, and whatever other weapon to take advantage of his passive.

    Edit: Details out on 6* Kefka, 6* Terra, and Esper Terra. Kefka looks fun, but he's kinda going against what mages do by getting lots of abilities rather than Dual Cast + massive MAG + strong spells. Gets human slayer for magic though. Terra seems to continue being a sort of a red mage by being support/damage in one. Esper Terra is looking to be one of the strongest DPS mages.

  11. #1391
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    "380% AoE Magic Attack & AoE 3 Turn -40% SPR Debuff"

    that + focus = sexy times

  12. #1392
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    but there is no double draw or anything
    Then how did I get a 3* and 4* Russel from one ticket pull a few weeks back?

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    Prolly when you dced during a pull but promised it ate your lapis. There is no 2x pull.

  14. #1394
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    And those incidents weren't anywhere near each other.

  15. #1395
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    Had the sudden urge to start grinding for Exdeath and kefka's TM. Doing the Earth shrine spam and since it takes close to 200 runs for nearly 3% increase it should take me by 2020 to get 100%. Better send a friend request to experience Holy before i reach my friend limit! ID is 635.757.254


    Edit: Currently at 8.4% ...almost there!

    Edit #2: 8.6%

  16. #1396
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    I highly recommend Nox for TM farming. I generally have it running 15 hours/day while sleeping or at work.

    I finished off my first barrage TM to use on my WoL. Now I'm TM farming with 2x Zidane, Locke, 2x Luna.

  17. #1397
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    here's a question, I have 3 luna's on their way to TM Barrages... should i go for multiple copies of barrage or just combine them all when they're ~30% each?

  18. #1398
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    I would go for 2 if I was you, but it all depends on who you are running on your team.


    I'm going for 2 or 3 barrage TMs since I ended up with 5 Lunas. I fused 3 of them to get first TM, now I am just trying to decide if 2 is enough or if I want to go for 3. My main team has Bartz and CoD which get it natively, so one is already on WoL, then next one will go on Vaan.

  19. #1399
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    I prolly wouldn't farm any past the 2nd. Before long strong units come with their own abilities that outclass it. Even if you're loaded with units with nothing better, it won't be quite as large of a buff since it'll be on units with sub-prime espers and equipment, assuming the best is all on the first two DPS characters. I'd focus on other abilities/gear and only farm it if there wasn't anything else worthwhile.

    My TM queue is a nightmare right now. Seriously considering just focusing on rank grinding for the next month or so and burn Lapis refilling to finish them out. I'm bad about hoarding units to 'quickly' knock out a TM, even though it still takes a week-ish and they're less useful than what I'm grinding now. Got 5 Shadows, 5 Russell, 5 Vivi, 5 Krile, 5 Rydia (TM and Summon trophy help), 5 Kefka, 5 Kain, 7 Shantotto, 2 Amarants, 3 Lunas, 3 Freya, 2 Terra, 3 more Cecils, Leo, Celes, Zidane, Garnet, Lenna, Bartz, Vaan, Exdeath, and Xiao, in no particular order.

    Grinding Zidane, Terra, Celes, and two more Cecils at the moment. Prolly focus on the 5x ones after to make unit space, except for Kefka, he'll be grinded individually. There's no major risk for status effects at the moment, but I'll be damned if I'll regret merging them once a Morbol boss hits. Some of the others are way on the back burner due to usefulness like Freya (merging), Bartz, Lenna, and Vaan.

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    I saw the idea floating around Reddit that higher NRG cost runs should award a higher chance to gain TM% so that you can farm while doing other content. Scaling up to 10NRG = 100% chance to gain .1%TM.

    I'm personally in love with the idea, even though we all know it'll never ever happen.

    Also, Malithar, God speed with all of those units. God speed.

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