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    Most people were looking for a really good Star Wars movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gredival View Post
    TLJ isn't that bad if you are evaluate it as a sci fi movie instead of a SW movie.

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    it's incomprehensible garbage taken as its own sci-fi venture. both new trilogy films are so full of nostalgia and fan-service and either reaffirming or deconstructing the STAR WARS TM mythos they are incapable of standing on their own.

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    Ignoring everything else, how can you say you had zero problems with the movie when the casino part (or any scene with Rose present) exists?

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    because he won't win by fighting what he hates, but saving what he loves

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    because he won't win by fighting what he hates, but saving what he loves

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    Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (December 20, 2019)

    So deep and touching. I can see why her character and performance were so highly praised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weltall View Post
    Just the worst SW movie ever.
    Yeah if Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith and Solo don't exist.

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    Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (December 20, 2019)

    Hate on the prequels all you want, but they at least had some semblance of trying to world build and expand the lore. Even with it’s piss poor execution.

    TLJ was an incoherent mess with a bunch of half-assed ideas that added absolutely nothing to the SW mythos.

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    I'll still take 3 TLJs over the prequels because it was fun to watch (most of it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrath View Post
    Yeah if Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith and Solo don't exist.
    PM, you got it. AoC and RotS, you wildin fam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrClout View Post
    AoC

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    Am I the only one that felt the laugh sounded like Hamil's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arus2001 View Post
    Am I the only one that felt the laugh sounded like Hamil's?
    Turn on the official closed caption. It literally says “Emperor: Laughs...”

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    Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker (December 20, 2019)

    Hamil has a pretty damn distinctive laugh even when he’s not trying to go for the Joker lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weltall View Post
    Turn on the official closed caption. It literally says “Emperor: Laughs...”
    plus Ian McDiarmid came out just after

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andalusian girls View Post
    it's incomprehensible garbage taken as its own sci-fi venture. both new trilogy films are so full of nostalgia and fan-service and either reaffirming or deconstructing the STAR WARS TM mythos they are incapable of standing on their own.
    Obviously it has to exist in a framework to be comprehensible but the biggest problem TLJ had are what it does within that framework -- the problematic implications for the future of the SW universe (lightspeed missiles, getting rid of big bads in Snoke and Phasma). If you don't care about how the world of Star Wars has to continue to exist after the movie looks, it is easier to forgive/ignore the problems of the TLJ.

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    Everyone saying TLJ was the worst SW movie needs to say "episodes 1-3 were better," out loud with a straight face. Watch them beforehand for best results.

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    Darth Maul alone was 200x better than TLJ.

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    TPM is still the worst, TLJ gets runner up. Solo ain’t terrible but it’s not particularly good either. *shrug*

    I think some people tend to look more fondly on the prequel series now with nostalgia and the benefit of having a multimedia campaign around it consisting of dozens of video games (some of them good!), the Clone Wars animated series, and the shared experience of actually seeing SW films in a theater.

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    TpM was better than AoTC to me.

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