Suicide Squad (August 5, 2016)

[Alistaire]

okay so is marvel just paying reviewers sony style? who could believe there is anything worse than Fant4stic?

Fuck Marvel.

[kuronosan]

DC is bad because they're trying too hard to be like Marvel.

Sorry, it's true.

Named actors.
Flashy scenes.
Forced comedy.
Ensemble movies.
Shared universe.

It's pretty easy to see that people think copying Marvel will make a successful movie.

Just make a good movie. It's not that hard.

[Hirronimus]

I'm a Marvel fan, but sayng Marvel did it first is silly. And to say it's not hard to make a good movie is an oversimplification. Look at the last decade, the quantity over quality ratio outweighs drastically in the favor of the former. You can probably count "good" movies from last year on one hand and even then you'd be biased in your opinion. People in Avengers thread hated AoU, but I enjoyed it, even if for the simple fact that James Fucking Spader. But to each their own and I respect your opinion. #safespaces #moviebros

[tyven]

using famous actors, big set piece sequences, and comic relief were not a staple of cinema before Marvel you guys

[Hirronimus]

This Superhero Era in movies we are experiencing now, reminds me a lot of the 80s-90s Action Hero movies like Dirty Harry, Death Wish, Die Hard, Lethal Weapon, Rambo, etc.

[Krandor]

using famous actors, big set piece sequences, and comic relief were not a staple of cinema before Marvel you guys

Big name actors and expensive budgets did not exist before Marvel you silly goose.

[kuronosan]

Big name actors and expensive budgets did not exist before Marvel you silly goose.

Blah blah Batman and Robin....


... They're putting the right actors in the right roles. Samuel Jackson isn't being horribly miscast as Mace Windu.

DC's putting the right people in the wrong roles. If I need to explain that further it's beyond explanation.

[chazzyphizzle]

hindsight is a helluva drug

[Krandor]

Other then Eisenberg who has really been miscast?

[Deftscythe]

Marketing of barely decent white ass.

Marketing to make people think this was gonna be DC's Guardians of The Galaxy.

okay so is marvel just paying reviewers sony style? who could believe there is anything worse than Fant4stic?

Paying for bad reviews on DC movies is like breaking the knees of someone in a wheelchair.

[Ker]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hea...source=twitter

Though the studio believed there was enough time to get the movie done, a source with ties to the project says it was a sprint from the start. "[Ayer] wrote the script in like, six weeks, and they just went," he says, arguing that the whole process would have benefited if Ayer, 48, had been given more time to work. But another source closely involved with the film says once it was dated, pushing back the release was not an option: "It's not just that you've told the public the movie is coming, you've made huge deals around the world with huge branding partners, with merchandise partners. It's a really big deal to move a tentpole date."

A source with knowledge of events says Warners executives, nervous from the start, grew more anxious after they were blindsided and deeply rattled by the tepid response to BvS. "Kevin was really pissed about damage to the brand," says one executive close to the studio. A key concern for Warners executives was that Suicide Squad didn't deliver on the fun, edgy tone promised in the strong teaser trailer for the film. So while Ayer pursued his original vision, Warners set about working on a different cut, with an assist from Trailer Park, the company that had made the teaser.

In May, Ayer's more somber version and a lighter, studio-favored version were tested with audiences in Northern California. "If there are multiple opinions that aren't in sync, you go down multiple tracks — two tracks at least," says an insider. "That was the case here for a period of time, always trying to get to a place where you have consensus." Those associated with the film insist Ayer agreed to and participated in the process. Once feedback on the two versions was analyzed, it became clear it was possible to get to "a very common-ground place." (The studio-favored version with more characters introduced early in the film and jazzed-up graphics won.) Getting to that place of consensus, however, required millions of dollars worth of additional photography.

Even on the day of the premiere, one insider fretted about whether Suicide Squad would mirror BvS' huge opening and weak legs. Another veteran says the goal is survival: "The movie's got to do $750 million, $800 million to break even. If they get anywhere close to that, they'll consider it a win."

What a clusterfuck .

[tyven]

wonder if we will get a directors cut with Ayer's original version down the line? I really love a lot of his past projects and was hoping this would take him to the next level.

[Delirium]

Warner Brothers can't cancel movies. Meanwhile, Marvel Studios shuffles things around, tossed Inhumans, etc. WB done fucked up.

[Dantrag]

Disney is loaded and has a very good track record. I have no clue wtf WB is doing or thinking. They're such a shit show, they need to start getting some decent people to view their fucking movies because JL is looking like shit(to me) but WW looks fucking amazing. Maybe they just need women to make all their fucking movies from now on.

[Iono]

Or maybe WW is gonna turn out to be shit ._.a

[Dantrag]

Or maybe WW is gonna turn out to be shit ._.a

It very well could. But so far it "looks" amazing. DC has definitely done a better job with their trailers. Would be kind of funny if WW ends up being their only good movie...

[Odesseiron]

Disney is loaded and has a very good track record. I have no clue wtf WB is doing or thinking. They're such a shit show, they need to start getting some decent people to view their fucking movies because JL is looking like shit(to me) but WW looks fucking amazing. Maybe they just need women to make all their fucking movies from now on.

And WB isn't? I mean they had 13 billion in revenue last year, and an operating revenue of 1.5 billion (going off wiki numbers) so money is not a valid excuse at all. Other than them being "cheap".

[Dantrag]

And WB isn't? I mean they had 13 billion in revenue last year, and an operating revenue of 1.5 billion (going off wiki numbers) so money is not a valid excuse at all. Other than them being "cheap".

I got nothing on the $$$ side. But they are rushing. Rather than building up they're going "hey lets have our 2nd movie be the avengers! Lets cram some youtube videos with super hero logos in the middle of our movie and completely fuck pacing"

[Hirronimus]

Audience testing? They're treating this as if it were a prescription medication. I can see a disclaimer being "In case of nausea, vomiting, suicidal thoughts or general thoughts of dread after watching, please contact your primary care studio executive right away."

[chazzyphizzle]

you realize "audience testing" like that is EXTREMELY commonplace?