Suicide Squad (August 5, 2016)

[Kaslo]

It seems to me like Marvel movies come out so good because the whole studio making them is dedicated to those movies. Whereas even if DC movies are made well, the studio interferes and everything goes to shit.

It is kind of like how Deadpool worked because Fox said "fuck it, let them do what they want"

[Dantrag]

It is kind of like how Deadpool worked because Fox said "fuck it, let them do what they want"

And that was on a tiny budget...

But part of it is they make clark a fucking retard(as well as 90% of the fucking characters...) "Who's that?" - looks at Bruce Wayne...

[ronin sparthos]

Age of Ultron was chock full of executive meddling and turned out to be messy. The same issue WB is having with the DCEU. Maybe Wonder Woman being set so far in the past will be an island to itself.

Deadpool had no need to set up anything because of the nature of the character.

[Dimmauk]

It seems to me like Marvel movies come out so good because the whole studio making them is dedicated to those movies. Whereas even if DC movies are made well, the studio interferes and everything goes to shit.

You would think after Nick Cage's Death of Superman, they would have learned something.

[Tyrath]

I still think Batman is gonna be the first good DC movie because Affleck is going to throw a tantrum until he gets things the way he wants them to.

[Kaslo]

I still think Batman is gonna be the first good DC movie because Affleck is going to throw a tantrum until he gets things the way he wants them to.

Not to mention, due to his relationship with Kevin Smith, he has pretty good comic book knowledge.

[6souls]

And that was on a tiny budget...

But part of it is they make clark a fucking retard(as well as 90% of the fucking characters...) "Who's that?" - looks at Bruce Wayne...

Clark not knowing who Bruce is would have come off better had Gotham and Metropolis not been across the bay from each other.

[Krandor]

That shouldn't even remotely matter. A reporter not knowing who one of the most famous people in the world looks like is just ridiculous.

[6souls]

I honestly can't make a good argument defending Clark. The airhead should really stick to the sports column.

[Tyrath]

Have we considered that Superman might just be bad at his reporter job?

[Krandor]

Someone as historically unreliable as Clark (since he would always be disappearing/flaking out to go do Superman things) wouldn't be employed if he was bad at it when actually around.

[Headspace]

Age of Ultron was chock full of executive meddling and turned out to be messy. The same issue WB is having with the DCEU. Maybe Wonder Woman being set so far in the past will be an island to itself.

Deadpool had no need to set up anything because of the nature of the character.

Wait, didn't executives meddle with AoU because Whedons unfiltered version was all over the place? As extremely disappointing as AoU was, I've read that people at Marvel Studios salvaged it from what it could've been.


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[Inshiya]

Movie wasn't bad. Didn't blow my mind, but wasn't bad. Joker was pretty good in the movie.

[ronin sparthos]

Wait, didn't executives meddle with AoU because Whedons unfiltered version was all over the place? As extremely disappointing as AoU was, I've read that people at Marvel Studios salvaged it from what it could've been.


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The story I recall reading was from Whedon's perspective but the way he had it was that corporate wanted alot of scenes he didn't exactly want in the film. Mostly setup baity things. The shirtless Thor scene is the most egregious example.

In exchange Whedon was able to get the entire Hawkeye cabin sequence in the film. Considering that might be the best scene of the entire movie while doing better job of setup than a vision quest I'm willing to give Whedon the benefit of the doubt.

I'm of the opinion that despite AoU's bloated package it's still way above anything DC has put forth thus far.

[Alistaire]

Clark not knowing who Bruce is would have come off better had Gotham and Metropolis not been across the bay from each other.

And if he wasn't a reporter for a major newspaper. The real world equivalent would be a reporter not knowing who Donald Trump was, even before the election.

[ronin sparthos]

That Clark Kent not knowing who Bruce Wayne really felt like an oversight in the script. But it wasn't as bad as:

Spoiler: show

Amanda Waller pitching her idea of the Suicide Squad as an anti-metahuman contingency when most of the team are unpowered normals. Considering the baseline was set at Superman you want to tell me that Captain Boomer, Deadshot and Harley qualify? Even Killer Croc is questionable. Diablo and Enchantress were the only ones that might have been sorta-maybe.

I dunno why they didn't just say a black ops team. This team would have been eaten by Superman for lunch.

[Delirium]

so because I'm lazy, can someone link a gif of June changing to Enchantress when she was shown off to those generals?

Spoiler: show

Enchantress' hand entwining with June's and then flipping was awesome visually.

[Melena]

That Clark Kent not knowing who Bruce Wayne really felt like an oversight in the script. But it wasn't as bad as:

Spoiler: show

Amanda Waller pitching her idea of the Suicide Squad as an anti-metahuman contingency when most of the team are unpowered normals. Considering the baseline was set at Superman you want to tell me that Captain Boomer, Deadshot and Harley qualify? Even Killer Croc is questionable. Diablo and Enchantress were the only ones that might have been sorta-maybe.

I dunno why they didn't just say a black ops team. This team would have been eaten by Superman for lunch.

Dead shot I could see just due to his accuracy with any gun. Just plop him a couple miles away from supes with a rifle loaded with kryptonite bullets and you have a dead meta human killed by a normal.

[Tyrath]

Superman can dodge bullets though. Batman's kryptonite gas bullets notwithstanding.

[dasva]

Superman can dodge bullets though. Batman's kryptonite gas bullets notwithstanding.

If he knows they are coming and knows to dodge them sure. But will that necessarily be the case? Sure he might hear the gun go off way in the distance but he's always used to hearing all kinds of bad stuff all the time. Even if he did pay attention would he immediately be afraid enough to super speed and dodge? I mean look what batman did in BvS and he doesn't have deadshots ridiculous abilities