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    Debating on whether I should see this still because it's annoying that everyone has told me they've romanticized the joker Harley relationship by cutting all the abuse out of the movie.


    Harleys whole original character is fucking Stockholm syndrome. It's not something to be idealized imo

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    I suppose I can say this much without spoiler but . . . yes. Without pretext or context (read: someone whom knows nothing of the characters) you can easily arrive at that point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Two more sources to back you up;

    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    Jared Leto is very unhappy with how much Joker content was cut from the film, He was meant to have a larger role
    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicid...es-cut-a144257 | http://www.comicbookmovie.com/suicid...uicide-a144199[/center]

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    Two more sources to back you up;
    Are private screenings with the cast not a thing anymore? Also, since he says a lot of his scenes were cut does that affect his take home at the end of the day?

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    Cast screenings seem to be rare now. Almost all of his footage from the trailers were cut. I don't know if it caused a cut in pay because I assume he had a set amount based on contract, so he may be pissed purely off of artist itengrity.
    WB brought in the people who cut the trailers to edit their version of the film. There is an article that I'll have to post later that David Ayer confirms there are multiple versions of the film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6souls View Post
    Cast screenings seem to be rare now. Almost all of his footage from the trailers were cut. I don't know if it caused a cut in pay because I assume he had a set amount based on contract, so he may be pissed purely off of artist itengrity.
    WB brought in the people who cut the trailers to edit their version of the film. There is an article that I'll have to post later that David Ayer confirms there are multiple versions of the film.
    i cant think of any scenes from the trailer i didnt see in the movie aside from him punching the ceiling of his car while driving it.

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    I was thinking of the torture scene but that was editing magic there.

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    after rewatching trailer there does appear to be a scene with him and a smoke grenade that i don't remember being in the movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    after rewatching trailer there does appear to be a scene with him and a smoke grenade that i don't remember being in the movie.
    The knife scene, "let me show you my toys", a scene where he backhands Harley. I think there's a few more.

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    what is the knife scene in the trailer aside from him laughing in the circle of knives? that was definitely in the movie. I thought the toys scene happened when he met the prison guard tho i dont remember the dialogue they exchanged.

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    ohhhh found this handy video. The smoke grenade part definitely evidence they shot a scene explaining his survival of the helicopter crash and eventual escape. fuck man I bet there is a ton of Joker Leto gold on the cutting room floor


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    dat backhand stronk!!!!

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    David Ayer tells Empire that there are six or seven versions of the film, The version which was released is called the Dossier Cut
    He also confirms the film universe's Joker/Robin/Batman connection
    This is sort of my personal thing and maybe less about a larger connection. But Joker killed Robin and Batman basically smashes his teeth out and locks him up in Arkham Asylum. It’s in the asylum where Joker would have done the ‘damaged’ tattoo as a message to Batman saying, 'You’ve damaged me. I was so beautiful before and now you’ve destroyed my face.' That’s where the grill comes from.
    http://www.empireonline.com/movies/s...quad-spoilers/

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    Ayer, is this your fucking cut or not. Earlier you said "this is my cut". Now it's the Dossier cut? Da fk man. Shit better have a super extended cut with all the Joker scenes in it...

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    Didn't 6souls post an article about there not going to be any extra scenes on the Blu-ray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrClout View Post
    Didn't 6souls post an article about there not going to be any extra scenes on the Blu-ray?

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    Yes, he claimed it was "his cut". Now he's saying dossier cut. Hopefully someone goes over his head to make it happen.

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    you know before this movie i thought david ayer could do no wrong and now i just want to distance myself from those comments as quickly as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyven View Post
    you know before this movie i thought david ayer could do no wrong and now i just want to distance myself from those comments as quickly as possible.
    Seems if you have the WB label, it's going to suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrClout View Post
    dat backhand stronk!!!!
    Now I really want to see this R rated version that apparently was made...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alistaire View Post
    Leto recently suggested, in an interview with BBC Radio, that it would be enough to provide a standalone Joker movie.
    Shit a Joker stand alone movie? I'd watch that. I think Leto showed enough that it could be good if half of it wasn't edited out and poorly at that. Now I kind of want to see the whole past with Joker and bats thing while in BvS the hints at it kind of turned me off

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