Street Fighter V: A Preliminary Thread

[Deejay]

That seems like a legit complaint but at the same time I don't want to see it nerfed too hard because it's amazing to look at. That, and I haven't played any good Bison's yet lol so I haven't felt it as a player.

[Krandor]

Irregardless of experience at the game, the basics of a good player should be able to shine thru.

So when I 10-0 Welt with Bison, that's definitely implying some balance issues associated with the character.

[MisterBob]

Poison's were shit as well. Abel's and Dhaslim's hit and hurt boxes made no sense. Dudley's sweep wasn't half as good as the animation, I could do combo's on Viper that didn't work on the rest of the cast

Do I need to continue?

Weird hitboxes are annoying but something we all will get used to or they will be corrected in time. There was crazier shit happening in vanilla IV like trade DP > ultras which were way more game breaking than one weird throw animation.

Yeah, weird shit like that has been happening in SF for literally over a decade.

Regardless, the game is not being "dropped left and right". When a Saturday afternoon tournament in Boston, a place with almost no FGC, has 90+ signups, it's hard to believe in the doomsaying by two random people on BG.

Personally, over 150 matches online, still haven't encountered someone doing the Alt Tab glitch, and have now seen 5 total matches with rollback of any kind in them. Get Ranked matches in 20s-1min depending on the time of day. Watching any of the top streamers and you see the same deal. You can watch http://www.twitch.tv/tru3ta1ent right now (he's not particularly good at the game, but that's not the point here) and see the game working 100% fine.

[Weltall]

Double post

[Weltall]

Irregardless of experience at the game, the basics of a good player should be able to shine thru.

So when I 10-0 Welt with Bison, that's definitely implying some balance issues associated with the character.

I could probably put up a better fight now that I have some time with the game and Karin. The gameplay still isn't good though.

[The Blackrose]

Fighting Bison feels like fighting Slayer with a stronger ground game.

Largest thing I've had to do thus far is call out autopilot MP pressure with DPs.

Also resolved to playing offline until some of the looming issues get fixed. Had at least 3 RQs last night after punishing people for stupid game plans.

[Krandor]

I could probably put up a better fight now that I have some time with the game and Karin. The gameplay still isn't good though.

Well, if you're still trying in a month I'll see you when Alex comes out since I at least want to give him a spin.

[Damane]

The only thing in the game I think I've felt genuinely salty about is Bison's dash. I think the disparity in tools where a character already has good buttons, but can just bypass footsies entirely, and how half the cast has to burn a super for an invincible move while he just has to tap forward twice is kinda garbo.

^ this, bison can diaf. i know people say chun is strong, but nowherer near as strong as bison

[Weltall]

The better players are using Chun, but Bison is S tier all alone.

[Damane]

well servers went down again!

[Callisto]

It's scheduled maintenance this time I believe

[MisterBob]

It's scheduled maintenance this time I believe

The maint shouldn't be for 3 more hours, unless the tweet had the wrong time zones. Supposed to be 1PM PST to 4PM PST

[Kaelan?]

On Saturday at locals people already were adjusted to the move > VT > wingless setup and were blocking it consistently, I don't think it's really viable long-term, and it really doesn't get you much more reward than the throw/juggle from neutral VT if they jump would.

I think the biggest reason I prefer the wingless setup is it's useful is to have a follow-up to cr.HP that you can confirm into mixup or damage, which you don't normally get. With something like f+HP, there's already some good options without burning VT.

You still have throw as an option if they're blocking it. And yeah, if they jump or block every time, the rewards aren't much better. But I think the rewards on other options you have are better. If they get hit by the crossup you get Nadeshiko > f+HP > EX Wingless for 309 damage (or EX Peach for corner + better knockdown, 24 less damage), and if they get hit by the raw d.HP you can skip the mixup and just confirm into passion press or super, which is more than you'd get off f+HP.

[Damane]

I do hope we get at one point Poison as a character. Need em sexy fireball traps ¬.¬

Cant wait for Juri, her V-trigger will prolly be Feng shui engine

[shidobu]

I do hope we get at one point Poison as a character. Need em sexy fireball traps ¬.¬

Cant wait for Juri, her V-trigger will prolly be Feng shui engine

imo that shit will be more broken in this game than it was in 4. this game plays at a much slower pace outside scrambles/corner mixups. Her having that kinda speed boost will be terrifying

[Damane]

imo that shit will be more broken in this game than it was in 4. this game plays at a much slower pace outside scrambles/corner mixups. Her having that kinda speed boost will be terrifying

depends on her pokes and overhead. Shit wasnt broken in 4 imho.

If they ever implement her i guess she will have tools for zoneing and going aggressiv but her dmg output will be shit.

[Chun Liroy]

I'm confused as to why Welt keeps playing and posting about a game he deems utter shit from the ground up? All the doom and gloom and complaining is annoying. Don't like it? Don't play it. I enjoy it and everyone around me enjoys it so I'll keep playing. Fang is dopeeee

[Krandor]

Much like myself I assume he just wants to watch the world burn. Though I quickly got past the playing part.

[Weltall]

I'm confused as to why Welt keeps playing and posting about a game he deems utter shit from the ground up? All the doom and gloom and complaining is annoying. Don't like it? Don't play it. I enjoy it and everyone around me enjoys it so I'll keep playing. Fang is dopeeee

Watching you complain is fun.

Dirty, dirty setup with Karin (if you can start it without dying):

crMP > stMP > JFL > VSkill > Instant Jump and can land in front or back with MK depending when you press it.

Also, just frame trap, hard to time, but works perfectly:


crMP > stMP > JFL > lkMu > frame kill with down+mp > Vskill full charge > crLP into any combo

[samalis]

Fighting 2.5k+ dhalsim as Ken is suffering. I think every other matchup is fine, although more are tougher but this one just seems downright miserable if the sim has any idea what they are doing. The meaty grey dmg from slowly blocking and getting in only to eat a jab that takes away so much of my life is the depressing part.

Probably just need to play a good sim for hours to get good at this matchup. I did find out though that you can jab his teleport pretty easily unless he is covering his ass with a fireball.