Street Fighter V: A Preliminary Thread

[Weltall]

I thought you worked in forensics


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Yes, but over the last few years I mostly manage teams that develop Forensic software and I deploy the software around the World and help negotiate. My upcoming travel schedule:

Shanghai, Dubai, Tokyo (work), Tokyo (vacation), Toronto, Sydney, Zurich, Amsterdam, and finishing at London.

We have some of the top talent around the globe at the SR dev positions, so comparing our work to what I see out of SFV development is just appalling. The guys on their team shouldn't have made it through sprint 2.

Also, Capcom 100% outsourced their "in house netcode" from a Korean company.

[Callisto]

Also, Capcom 100% outsourced their "in house netcode" from a Korean company.

This might be a good thing lol

[Weltall]

I dunno, worst 2 of the worst launches in gaming go to FFXIV and SFV. Common denominator = big company outsourcing to Korea to save money.

[Akiyama]

I dunno, worst 2 of the worst launches in gaming go to FFXIV and SFV. Common denominator = big company outsourcing to Korea to save money.

On this note, are you assuming to FFXIV 1.0? If so, then yeah, that whole abortion was awful. ARR's launch was no where near as awful as SFV's was, though.

[Seravi Edalborez]

It has nothing to do with the actual fighting, but holy shit, some of the soundtrack of this game is absurdly good. The Chara select theme is just too good.

It's a shame that literally the only time I ever hear it is on the way to training mode.

[Weltall]

On this note, are you assuming to FFXIV 1.0? If so, then yeah, that whole abortion was awful. ARR's launch was no where near as awful as SFV's was, though.

Yes, vanilla release.

[Akiyama]

Yes, vanilla release.

Yeah, that was along with GW2 and D3 as a couple of the worst launches I've been apart of.

[Bweigelt]

It's no Guilty Gear, but it's definitely one of the better soundtracks around right now.

SF3 is probably still my all time favorite fighting game soundtrack though.

Yeah SF3's soundtrack was amazing. I think that game had my favorite stages and music in a fighting game, I just loved the atmosphere it had going on.

[Damane]

I dunno, worst 2 of the worst launches in gaming go to FFXIV and SFV. Common denominator = big company outsourcing to Korea to save money.

I still dont understand why Capcom has to force their own dickhead through a wall and implement their on network code. I mean there is GGPO, Skullgirls used it. Heck they used it on the SFIII rerelease.

Why the fuck didnt they use it for SFV. . .

Dont get me wrong, the netcode works fantastic on a 5 bar connection, but as soon as you hit 4 bars and below its like horseshit all over the place.

[Akiyama]

https://twitter.com/JWonggg/status/710955799925882880

lol

[Krandor]

I still dont understand why Capcom has to force their own dickhead through a wall and implement their on network code. I mean there is GGPO, Skullgirls used it. Heck they used it on the SFIII rerelease.

Why the fuck didnt they use it for SFV. . .

Dont get me wrong, the netcode works fantastic on a 5 bar connection, but as soon as you hit 4 bars and below its like horseshit all over the place.

GGPO isn't some magical cure all, and generally speaking requires a good amount of system resources that the PS4 probably can't afford. The game is still using a rollback netcode similar to GGPO, though designed in a very poor way.

[Darus Grey]

The part most weird to me about it is since they're using the Unreal Engine, I feel like input lag shouldn't even have been something to worry about. Unless there is some big fundamental issue with user inputs in the change from UE 3 to 4 I don't see how something like this happened without being intentional.

As someone who is intimately familiar with UE4(I'm an engine contributor), UE4 has nothing to do with it. It's ALL capcom.

[Krandor]

If I had to wager a guess, it's implemented to help cover up lag. But unlike intelligent implementation like in GGPO where you can adjust input lag to mask poor connections, here it's just a standardized lag applied to the entire game.

[Kaelan?]

I don't think it's just that, or we'd see better performance in local offline. Even without vsync it's still like 5f delay.

[Krandor]

What I mean is that instead of providing variable input delay like we see in a good number of rollback based fighting games these days, they simply went for a blanket delay. Either out of sheer laziness or to "standardize" the experience between online and offline.

[Darus Grey]

What I mean is that instead of providing variable input delay like we see in a good number of rollback based fighting games these days, they simply went for a blanket delay. Either out of sheer laziness or to "standardize" the experience between online and offline.

My "Professional" opinion is that the game just wasn't ready for release and most of what we see are just stop-gaps to get something working out. I don't think laziness factors in, just bad management decisions to push things out on a schedule that they couldn't commit to.

I would not be surprised if down the line many of the systems we have now are literally thrown out to be replaced with what the developers actually intended in the future.

[Weltall]

Man, USA is fucking doing work against the JP right now, lol.

[Xno Kappa]

Yeah fchamp just bopped kazunoko.

[Krandor]

Champ pulled some insane shit out in some of those matches. b+HP AA CC then juggling with EX Fireball, teleport, Yoga Gale was so fucking nasty

[Kaelan?]

JP team could have done better if Kazunoko didn't have to carry the rest of his team. That Mika looked like he didn't even know day 1 shit, lol. That said, Champ's sim looking mad solid rn.