Street Fighter V: A Preliminary Thread

[shidobu]

needs more bikini dlc

[fantasticdan]

Do those numbers take steam refunds into account?

[Weltall]

They likely do not, but the numbers make total sense considering the game is a downgrade across the board, outside of graphics.

[Callisto]

yeahhhh lol...sales 30% below projections, we'll be lucky if we get player 2 being able to go to character select, much less reduced input lag

[Krandor]

And it's worth noting that since they've failed to implement the real money shop at the promised date, they're losing out on revenue from that as well.

[Callisto]

At this rate we should have just played Ultra another year and had them release SFV in 2017 lol

[Weltall]

At this rate, we should just play Ultra instead because it is a better game. I can't fucking wait to be in the Shinjuku arcades in 2 days.

[Deejay]

Can you take pictures of the activity/inactivity of the Ultra cabs? I'm actually curious


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[Weltall]

Yeah, but I can already tell you that Thur-Saturday it is still slam packed with a line per my friends who live there.

Every game has it's "arcade spot", so if you know where to go, you will still find CVS2 and SF3 lines with A+ competition. Ultra will be popular in Japan for a long time, especially since Capcom has failed to deliver an arcade version of SF5.

[Weltall]

Btw, off topic: You dudes don't ever want to go to fucking China. Just stay out...

[Deejay]

Not even Shanghai? I heard it was fun

Anyone want to get some games in V??

[Xno Kappa]

I always have a blast in Beijing the numerous times I've been there, and Hong Kong is amazing. No idea wtf Welt is talking about.

[Weltall]

Hong Kong is not the same thing lol. Shanghai is where I just got back from for a week. I mean the high end clubs were legit, but they are everywhere. Mostly, I couldn't get over the smell. It was so bad that I didn't even want to walk outside.

[Viq]

I always have a blast in Beijing the numerous times I've been there, and Hong Kong is amazing. No idea wtf Welt is talking about.

Word, Beijing and Tianjin are great. Gotta wear a mask all the time, but awesome food and great places to visit make it well worth the trip.

EDIT: To tie this into SFV, the Chinese team (Xiaohai, Dakou, Abao) getting bopped out of this season of Street Fighter Crash by a Korean team of old-school Hyper Fighting and KoF98 players on Sunday was great fun.

[Weltall]

RIP

[Don Katsu]

P.s. I'm still waiting for this deejay /don katsu fgt to address the fact that literally 99% of the sf5 tournaments are being won by sf 4 players.

Go ahead I'm waiting.

Sorry for the late reply. Gotta feed the troll

What the fuck are you talking about?

1) I am pretty sure I said Infiltration was going to be godlike at this game out the gate. I definitely said players that were dominant in SFIV were going to be good at V as well. If they had the will and effort to get themselves there in one game they can sure as hell be above average in another.

2) SFIV was a better game, it's just old and no one is playing it anymore

3) I did say Bison was a strong character and I still think he is. The only real shit character in SFV is Zangief. But SFV isn't about strong characters, it's about which character is the least mediocre

Your post delivery can be complete shit but some of the shit you say is somewhat accurate


And yes RIP those sales numbers for V

[Jefe]

Damn, Mike Z with some sound knowledge regarding this game re the horrible input lag:


It's totally possible to bring input lag down to 3f, yes, as long as the developer is willing to make whatever changes are necessary to do that.

I have been waiting for commentators to get wise to what this much input lag means.
Instead of saying, "Oh, got him too scared to try a punish!"
they should start saying things like
"Since Ken's dash is 15f and his throw is 5f startup, and since average human reaction time is 11f or higher, because of the 8-9f of input lag in SF5 it is humanly impossible to counterpoke or avoid the grab on reaction, rather than anticipation."
or
"Since 11f is at the low end of human reaction time, adding the 8-9f of input lag in this game makes Ken's 22f V-Skill cancel not generally punishable on reaction even by a 3f normal, since 11+8+3 = exactly 22. You have to guess he's going to do it and press the button early."

But you know, those things are much less exciting to say. :^\

To expand a little bit further, if we separate reaction times (RA) between males and females, we'll get different averages. Because it has been shown scientifically that male RA < female RA, games with low input lag clearly favour males. Therefore, it's always super rare to see a female exceed in any competition that involves reactionary activity vs men. It's not really the lol grills suck. So, having removed that innate advantage males posses due to lower RA, female players, in theory, have a leveled field in SFV. In conclusion, don't be shocked to see female players in top 10.

[Krandor]

Legacy controllers/sticks in V apparently have lower input delay then PS4 devices, the hits just keep on coming

[Lokus]

Doesn't that sorta show the 8f input lag was intentional considering they didn't really plan on supporting legacy stuff to begin with. Legacy stuff probably just bypassed whatever wonky shit they implemented to make sure PC/PS4 stays at 8f.

[Taim Meich]

If the 8f of input lag are intentional, as aberrant as that may sound, we can trust that game mechanics were designed with that in mind, and thus we should naturally factor that into all the theoretical considerations we make, like the examples Mike Z rovided regarding Ken's command dash. It may sound wrong, but at least, being intentional means we're playing the game they designed, and not something completely different from what they thought they made.