Street Fighter V: A Preliminary Thread

[Callisto]

Speaking of which, I wonder how much potential money streamers lost thanks to this abortion of a game? SFIV had a pretty decent and consistent viewership base. Hell, I can't even remember the last time I visited twitch.



You're not even allowed to post a damn link?

Viewership is up that's more due to esports/twitch on the whole growing, but FGs outside of EVO are still a negligible share, MKX ESL is often the only one pulling enough views to matter on the larger scale other than Smash. SF is still generally the tops at multi-game majors.

[fantasticdan]

I'm probably just being an idiot for not getting this but are you implying they should be like $40 instead of $60/fullprice, like updated versions of other fighters (at least SF4's versions) generally are?

There should be a DLC upgrade option or discount on version updates for existing owners. As it is, your ASW games become coasters every 1-2 years, and you have to buy a new version of each game for full retail price (even if the version didn't add anything you care about), just so you can continue to play with the community. DLC characters (usually on disc) typically cost $8 each before they are rolled into the next version for free.

For comparison, you could upgrade super sf4 to AE, or AE to ultra for like $15.

[Nitsuki]

ASW's shitty pricing model ensures their games will never pick up any real traction.

Wat

[Callisto]

Wat

v1 for $60 > outdated by JP arcade update in 4 months > another $60 a few months later

[Krandor]

Forcing people to pay 60 bucks a year to stay current works great for EA sports, but since the core audience of fighting games is in a decidedly lower income range it gets a fair amount of flack.

[Nitsuki]

Guess it was never an issue for me when i've been used to it for 4 iterations of ps2 gg.

[fantasticdan]

Maybe you don't care about the cost personally, but it cuts into the online and competitive scene a lot. Nobody wants to spend like $100 a year just to stay current with ASW games if they aren't already hardcore on them, which means hardly any new/casual players, which means less players making the jump to play the games at a decent level. Even if you love GG/BB, paying $50-60 per game per update cycle is a shitty deal if there is hardly a scene for them.

PS2 era GG games are hardly a good comparison; they were released farther apart, generally at budget pricing as opposed to full retail, and DLC updates weren't an option. Nowadays there is no excuse for invalidating peoples purchases annually and charging full price for version updates as if each one was a fresh new game.

Revelator should have been in a good position to pick up some steam from SF5's wreckage, but it won't like this.

[Krandor]

Aside, just saw on r/kappa that Nuckledu paid for a guys flight to CEO, so he's going to compete as Nuckledu| ElChakotay

[Nitsuki]

If put that way, then yea i agree. I guess for me it didn't matter. But we have been seeing this trend since the genesis/snes days (sports games, sf2) unfortunately it'll continue. I really do agree the model should've followed how sf4 did it with discounted upgrades.

[Callisto]

Aside, just saw on r/kappa that Nuckledu paid for a guys flight to CEO, so he's going to compete as Nuckledu| ElChakotay

irony here being that El Chakotay just got sponsored by someone no one has ever heard of...

[Krandor]

I know we all hate this game, but pretty good matches going on at Dreamhack.

Momochi losing to Ryan Hart, Mago losing to Phenom. Apparently Europe came to play.

[Nitsuki]

inb4 welt says:

"you know this game is bad when europe is doing awesome"

[Krandor]

Well, he wouldn't be wrong.

[Lokus]

Does that apply to SF4 when Luffy won Evo?

edit: Phenom sending Daigo to losers as well.

[Krandor]

Does that apply to SF4 when Luffy won Evo?

No that was because Rose's backdash is OP.

And Phenom just beat Daigo.

[Weltall]

Better fighting game players don't shine through in SFV. Haitani is a god, but he would never run through Daigo like it was training mode, in a good game, as we just saw. Fireball zoning is so poor in this game as everyone just jumps in all day.

Solid, defensive play is not rewarded or even a viable game plan in V.

[Lokus]

Haitani made that shit look really free against Daigo. I think he has basically ran over him every time they met in tournament so far.

[Krandor]

Draw Game, the fix is in.

[Akiyama]

Solid defensive play isn't rewarded, yet Fuudo didn't like..block on wake up it seemed like...ever lol

so it would have rewarded him there.

that and it's a bad video game

[Weltall]

Solid defensive play isn't rewarded, yet Fuudo didn't like..block on wake up it seemed like...ever lol

so it would have rewarded him there.

that and it's a bad video game

There was a match between Mago and Momochi recently where they pressed buttons on wake up every single time. Every.Single.Time. Just sitting and blocking in this game on your wake up is basically forfeiting.

Think about it: in every SF to date, pressing buttons or SRK on wake up was done to throw your opponent off and show him or her you are willing to take a risk. In V, just sitting there and blocking is showing them you are willing to take a risk lmfao.