Street Fighter V: A Preliminary Thread

[6souls]

[Melena]

Man I'm starting to get scared. Wifi preordered the collectors edition for me and planning on getting a fight pad or stick and now I'm wondering if I should cancel or at the very least not open it until I see some reviews.

[warc]

Laura's LP elbow is -2 on block. Its not punishable except by grab supers. MP elbow is like -5 or worse, easily punishable. The difference is like C.Viper's lp/mp thunder knuckles in animation. LP elbow hits lower, MP elbow is sort of angled up like her st.MP. And there's a stronger speed line on her elbow if you have trouble distinguishing them.

@Melena Get the game. It is fun enough on its own. It is NOT sf4 at all, but it is fun enough on its own. I know I will definitely put at least 60+ hours into it making it worthwhile imo, even if it doesn't last competitively.

[warc]

Also, Laura is great. in bottom tier anyway, just fish for CH and confirm in cr.mp mp shoulder grab. then go for command grab mixups after that. she's not a combo character but she doesn't need it. And if you do need it, you can do 300+ w/ vtrigger, 400ish with vtrigger/super. She's the best. The only MU I don't really have an answer for right now is Karin. Karin is OP.

[Don Katsu]

Jab on wake up is not good. You get free crush counters if you're using meaties which are viable in this game.

Either way, this shit is fucking boring... I hope there are some significant changes to this because right now I feel like I'm going from FFXI to FFXIV 2.0....

[Charismatic]

Either way, this shit is fucking boring... I hope there are some significant changes to this because right now I feel like I'm going from FFXI to FFXIV 2.0....

God damn, lmao. ded

[Callisto]

Really? I find crossups SUPER easy to spot crossups and block in this game. The ONLY time I get hit by them is when I try to trip guard, but I'm pretty sure THEY TOOK THAT OUT OF THE GAME. There is almost no ambiguity at all in the crossups. If you get knocked down, it is pretty easy to say "ok, he had to be standing at X spot for a crossup" and he either is or isn't. Changing your attack button in air doesn't seem to affect which side you land on like SF4.

Also, I've been punishing Laura's shoulder on block each time, but it could just be I'm going against Laura's using the wrong version of it.

crossups themselves are easy to block but I've had a lot of times where it's super ambiguous what side they'll land on after so I block wrong on the follow-up attack

and yeah, Laura's L.Shoulder is only like -2 on block, people are probably fishing with medium because it has a follow-up option

[Callisto]

Also, Laura is great. in bottom tier anyway, just fish for CH and confirm in cr.mp mp shoulder grab. then go for command grab mixups after that. she's not a combo character but she doesn't need it. And if you do need it, you can do 300+ w/ vtrigger, 400ish with vtrigger/super. She's the best. The only MU I don't really have an answer for right now is Karin. Karin is OP.

This is the problem lol...fish for CH with what? MP that is stubby as hell? HK which is slow as hell and moves you forward into things? HP which has both problems? Everyone who acts like Laura is good because of her resets/damage only think so because they're playing bad people online, she has incredibly meh neutral and suffers the same issue as Mika where mashing grab/jab blows up a lot of her pressure, except Mika at least has actual hitconfirm options.

Overall my problems with the game distill down to instead of finding a mix of neutral, combos, and setplay, they just made the game 100% neutral. There's a strong emphasis on footsies which is cool, but there's like nothing else to do in the game other than that. Bores the shit out of me to just play footsies the entire time with no other gameplay phases.

Man I'm starting to get scared. Wifi preordered the collectors edition for me and planning on getting a fight pad or stick and now I'm wondering if I should cancel or at the very least not open it until I see some reviews.

I think it's still worth getting, I wouldn't even say I think the game is bad, it's just not the style that I want to play

[Kaelan?]

I hate this too. With Ken, if I want to connect cr.MP > st.MP I have to basically be inside of my opponents body now...ridiculous. This makes it impossible to fight Bison because he can keep me out and punish fireballs without meter.

This shit is really annoying me to. With Mika, almost every time I land (whatever) > st.MP > f+MP, the f+MP whiffs if I'm not right on top of them because st.MP pushes people out too far on hit. Extremely frustrating when you block something horribly unsafe that leaves people a short distance away from you. I've had times when I jump in on someone in the corner and it still doesn't goddamn work cause I didn't land right next to them. Hit the st.MP, whiff f+MP, eat a full combo.

[Krandor]

I don't even try the combos that are at risk of getting pushed back too far unless it's very obvious that it will connect.

[Callisto]

This shit is really annoying me to. With Mika, almost every time I land (whatever) > st.MP > f+MP, the f+MP whiffs if I'm not right on top of them because st.MP pushes people out too far on hit. Extremely frustrating when you block something horribly unsafe that leaves people a short distance away from you. I've had times when I jump in on someone in the corner and it still doesn't goddamn work cause I didn't land right next to them. Hit the st.MP, whiff f+MP, eat a full combo.

tradeoff is it seems they greatly buffed the range on the MP part of target combo at least, so you can use than in your BnBs and save s.mp > f+mp for when you have a punish/jumpin/dizzy etc

[Krandor]

Just had a nice win streak get shut down HARD, dude bopped the fuck out of me.

[Kaelan?]

tradeoff is it seems they greatly buffed the range on the MP part of target combo at least, so you can use than in your BnBs and save s.mp > f+mp for when you have a punish/jumpin/dizzy etc

I've been trying to teach myself to just skip s.mp and go for f+mp when it looks like I might whiff. But yeah, midscreen I probably should just do s.mp s.hp peach more.

[Krandor]

One thing I am gonna say I really like in this game is minimum scaling on Critical Arts.

[Nitsuki]

It still bothers me how someone like combofiend approved this game in a way.

[Krandor]

The decision to make this entire game so mind numbingly simplistic and casual friendly is very likely way above Combofiend's head.

Aside, while I can ride it with general game knowledge being so low, I love how many people don't realize Nash's CA is basically an instant full screen punish.

[Nitsuki]

That's why i said in a way. But it really is bothersome. O well, i got the game through psn back in july, so i'm stuck w/ it. But i'll prolly be back on xrd

[Krandor]

Adding in the old GGXX style survival mode (with stat boosts between fights) makes me happy and will probably keep me playing, even if it has absolutely zero bearing on "real" gameplay.

[Nitsuki]

Trying to enjoy the beta, i just can't. :/ this game is so unsatisfyingly boring and bland that i just decided to play black ops 3. It's not that cammy is a bad character, but they did nerf her to no end. I know i'm not good at fightan games anymore since i've fallen off horribly, but i cannot be this bad where this game just doesn't let me have fun.

[shidobu]

Trying to enjoy the beta, i just can't. :/ this game is so unsatisfyingly boring and bland that i just decided to play black ops 3. It's not that cammy is a bad character, but they did nerf her to no end. I know i'm not good at fightan games anymore since i've fallen off horribly, but i cannot be this bad where this game just doesn't let me have fun.

rip old man