Dragonball Z (2015)

[Xno Kappa]

Convenient ass pulls to win fights has always been a stable of the Dragonball franchise. The Mafuba technique itself is one of the originals, and it's hilarious they dropped the whole "contain them in rice cookers" bit and went for urns. Goku vs Frieza on Namek is probably the only legit fight with a definitive winner/loser. Even then you can argue the SSJ transformation as an asspull.

Spoiler: show

If spoilers are even half-true, we've all expected All-Chan to get involved somehow someway the second that whole completely out of place scene with him giving Goku a "play anytime anywhere" button was shown. The Vegetto bit is another we've all long suspected with the huge emphasis on pottara earrings this arc.

[Akiyama]

Debatable at best. Regular perfect Cell, sure. Super Perfect Cell? That could have gone either way. If Cell has attacks that can do that much damage to Gohan, who's to say he wasn't capable of landing one on his own?

After the Zenkai boost, Cell was on another level

To be fair, if Gohan hadn't been a cocky asshole like literally every good guy in DBZ, there would have been no Super Perfect Cell because Gohan would've murdered him.

[Cream Soda]

To be fair, if Gohan hadn't been a cocky asshole like literally every good guy in DBZ, there would have been no Super Perfect Cell because Gohan would've murdered him.

Could say the same thing about Cell; about
A. Gohan becoming ssj2
B. Cell giving them 9 days to train for the Cell games at all.

Then can say the same thing about Vegeta w/ letting him become Perfect Cell, etc.

[TummieGaruda]

Ok legit spoilers others I posted were 100% fake and did not come from Herms (one of three people that post real episode titles)
Sorry for the confusion..

Spoiler: show

Episode 65 - Merged Zamasu is able to erase Ki
Episode 66 - Goku breaks Zamasus time ring with a life threatening attack and something happens to Zamasu

[Dantrag]

Meh, want to see a fusion :/

[Tyrath]

Everything is setup for it so it'd be dumb if it doesn't happen.

At the same time, those don't really confirm or deny much.

[Vandalhart]

Is the earring even needed for Goku and Vegeta to fuse? I thought they could go the same route that Trunks and Goten go.

[Tyrath]

Is the earring even needed for Goku and Vegeta to fuse? I thought they could go the same route that Trunks and Goten go.

I think their fusion dance combo is Gogeto and I'm not sure if thats actually canon.

They use the earrings to get Vegito.

[Insanecyclone]

Vegito is also a permanent fusion. The only reason they split apart inside buu is because reasons of buu being fucking weird inside

[Ratatapa]

I think their fusion dance combo is Gogeto and I'm not sure if thats actually canon.

They use the earrings to get Vegito.

Correct for the dance. But i don't think Gogeta and it's non canon afaik

the only 2 times Gogeta appeared was in GT and DBZ movie 12 or 13 (vs janenba)

[Tyrath]

Vegito is also a permanent fusion. The only reason they split apart inside buu is because reasons of buu being fucking weird inside

Because plot mostly. And I'm sure they would find more plot if they fused again.

[Seha]

Probably nobody cares but in the italian dub only the name Gogeta exists. Mostly probably cause Vegetto doesn't make any sense in non japanese...

[Virg]

Gogeta is not canon. Vegeta never learned the fusion dance. Also Potara fusion is not only permanent but also quite a bit stronger than fusion dance fusion.

[Salodin]

They've already written so many outs for themselves, as if they're afraid of writing themselves into a corner. There's no point in preparing to be disappointed. We got two kais from the past, two sets of potaru earrings, a "Get out of All-Chan Free" button, and fucking Mafuba cause why not. This isn't including any random power up or ability that they can pull out of their ass following a perfectly out of nowhere power up.

Oh, and Beerus is pissed he couldn't stop Zamasu when he did. You know sending the Kais isn't enough and if things spill back into his universe that he is getting involved, with the gusto that only a GoD could have. Oh, and Bulma will be done with the time machine soon, I wonder what they use that for.

[Zealot]

Been established that a wish can separate two Potara-fused people.

[Tyrath]

I feel like they're gonna do it via All-chan to have it happen faster. He wants to play with Goku, not Vegito.

[Virg]

Fuck that I want Beerus to witness the badass powerhouse that is Vegetto and shit himself lel

[Xno Kappa]

They've already written so many outs for themselves, as if they're afraid of writing themselves into a corner. There's no point in preparing to be disappointed. We got two kais from the past, two sets of potaru earrings, a "Get out of All-Chan Free" button, and fucking Mafuba cause why not. This isn't including any random power up or ability that they can pull out of their ass following a perfectly out of nowhere power up.

Yup. This arc has been super interesting with all the possible outcomes. My guess is, Goku and Vegeta beat Zamasu, but not entirely kill him. Zamasu gets one last hair up his ass against an exhausted duo then All-Chan steps in.

[Tyrath]

Fuck that I want Beerus to witness the badass powerhouse that is Vegetto and shit himself lel

He could always accompany All-chan there and see him.

[Salodin]

Man, I really hope they don't turn Beerus into a snitch though, I'm loving the "keep this shot under wraps" atmosphere they've had so far.