Dragonball Z (2015)

[Fwahm]

I'm surprised anyone dying would motivate/anger him. He lives in a universe where he can just wish someone back at the drop of a hat, and he's personally been to the afterlife, which turns out to be just a sweeter version of his current life.

I do wonder what is the real trigger for Super Saiyin though. First it appeared to be "extreme duress + anger" = breaks the threshold. Vegetta finally got it by pushing his body to the max and finally breaking through.

With Gohan it kind of shifted to "find what you're fighting for" so it became a motivation thing.

With Goten and Trunks it seemed like "you just get SS once you reach a certain power level."

It was anger with Vegeta too (he was angry with himself at being unable to achieve it), and Gohan, Goten, and Trunks all got it offscreen..

[dejet]

I'm surprised anyone dying would motivate/anger him. He lives in a universe where he can just wish someone back at the drop of a hat, and he's personally been to the afterlife, which turns out to be just a sweeter version of his current life.

I do wonder what is the real trigger for Super Saiyin though. First it appeared to be "extreme duress + anger" = breaks the threshold. Vegetta finally got it by pushing his body to the max and finally breaking through.

With Gohan it kind of shifted to "find what you're fighting for" so it became a motivation thing.

With Goten and Trunks it seemed like "you just get SS once you reach a certain power level."

Back then the dragon balls could only revive you once, no? It was not till after the freeza saga when dende took over that you could live forever by wishing. Or am I getting this wrong and that took place before? I know the dragon balls got a power up with him tho.

[Vaspinne]

It was anger with Vegeta too (he was angry with himself at being unable to achieve it), and Gohan, Goten, and Trunks all got it offscreen..

Huh?

[The Stig]

Spoilered for huge:

Spoiler: show

source: http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%...eo0TsWeZM2hSNQ

[Tyrath]

Right in the childhood.

[Dantrag]

Huh?

Best transformation was Gohan SSJ 2 in japanese.

[Semjax]

So uh...Anyone else notice how Gohan was being built up as the savior of the Buu Saga, and out of sudden left field Goku became the hero?

Like the guy reached a potential level higher the Super Saiyan 3, was able to fight Kid Buu on Level, and such... But then suddenly Goku became the hero.

It was painfully obvious that he was intended to become the guy who replaced Goku, from the end of the Cell Games to the end of the Buu Saga and beyond...

Oh well, I guess he...

Spoiler: show

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That responsibility.

[Ayn]

/clap

It was painfully obvious that he was intended to become the guy who replaced Goku, from the end of the Cell Games to the end of the Buu Saga and beyond...

Oh well, I guess he...

A bait and switch we saw with Gundam SEED Destiny, where Shinn was intended to be the new protag.

..But was apparently so damn terrible they just brought back Kira.

[Tyrath]

Can't blame them with that one. Shin is the only protagonist I've ever seen who fought with the bad guys in the final fight. Dude sucked.

[Ayn]

Also:



But I also liked when they did it the next episode and did a slight rewind; the expression on people's faces.



Starts at 56:17 or so.

[Fwahm]

Huh?

That's filler.

[Ratatapa]

That's filler.

Wut

[Semjax]

That's filler.

Yeah well...YOU'RE FILLER...

Yeah.. Totally got you! Haha.

*Failure*

[Tyrath]

It's in DBKai so not filler.

[Vaspinne]

That's filler.

Okay, than how about this?

http://i10.mangacdn.com/dragon-ball/...ball-70667.jpg
http://i2.mangacdn.com/dragon-ball/3...ball-70668.jpg

[Fwahm]

I'm not sure I've ever seen someone claim that that is a scene of Gohan becoming a Super Saiyan for the first time, given that Gohan transforms just by concentrating, and there's no shown trigger. Almost everyone agrees that that's a scene after Gohan has already become a Super Saiyan for the first time and is practicing it (it's probably the very first voluntary transformation, given Goku's excitement). Eithwe way, the anime scene where he transforms isn't in the manga.

DB Kai still has filler, just much less of it. For example, Gregory wasn't in the manga at all, but Kai kept his part of King Kai's training from the anime.

[Dantrag]

Also:

COME ON BABY ROLLLLLLL ROLLLLLLL(or w/e)

Scene still gives me chills. The Ozoru scream in the background is what makes it amazing. I wish they had kept that part in the dubbed version. It just added SO much to the scene. Easily top 10 scenes in anime ever.

[Petitssk]

I never watched that part of the Anime, but if I recall correcly, in the Manga he managed to make his hair change colours for the first time by imagining Piccolo being murdered by Freezer. Not sure if that was just the German translation, but seeing how Goku seems to get a lot of flak for being a terrible father, it seems rather telling that he advises Gohan to imagine Piccolo being killed, rather than his own father.

Though Piccolo was also the only one to call Goku out on his decision to send Gohan into battle with Cell after giving the latter a bean on top of all that; wonder if Goku eventually came to terms with the fact that Piccolo was more of a father-figure than he was.

[Ayn]

Scene still gives me chills. The Ozoru scream in the background is what makes it amazing. I wish they had kept that part in the dubbed version. It just added SO much to the scene. Easily top 10 scenes in anime ever.

Agreed. I had those episodes on VHS and watched them over and over again.

[myreality]

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