Dragonball Z (2015)

[Tyrath]

I love the fact Kaioken is a thing again. The childhood feels yo!!

Wont be again it seems with the end of the ep. Gokus like he needs to stay away from it for a while lol

[Null]

Whatever happened to Buu? Did they toss him into outer space? Or is he still sleeping somewhere off screen? Cause I haven't even seen any location in the dome where he could be.

[TummieGaruda]

Seems the new titles are floating around. Filler episodes start around Episode 43

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Episode 43 - Struggling to take care of Pan
Episode 44 - Secrets of the unleashed super human water
Episode 45 - The Amazing Copy Vegeta

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Yeah they were released last week. Filler starts at 42 its a Monaka fight.

[Fwahm]

Hit should replace Vegeta as Goku's main rival, like Vegeta did to Piccolo, Tien, and Krillin before him.

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Not being serious.

[Dantrag]

Hit is way stronger than Goku right now. Seems that even Hit fears Champa, wonder how far behind the Gods they currently are.

[LinktheDeme]

Hit is way stronger than Goku right now. Seems that even Hit fears Champa, wonder how far behind the Gods they currently are.

I believe that's an incorrect assessment. Beerus said when they originally fight that he had to use 70% of his power meanwhile Goku was using only 80 I believe. This was before they had all of the training from whis and MUCH before the Kaioken with blue. The fact that Beerus was completely taken back and showed concern of SSJB Kaioken speaks considerable volumes about Goku and Hit's strength. Hit and Goku just kicked the shit out of each other and we've learned that a sandwich only becomes tastier after being defeated since the frieza saga. (although they've dropped this concept a bit)

Whis' sister implied that Champa is the weaker one of the two and it's rather visible. Not to mention he does not work out enough to barely burn his own caloric intake as barely walking a small distance was considered "exercise". Champa was scared when both Goku and Hit looked at him basically telling him stfu we're fighting now don't interfere kthx. Someone in control of their pawns after just making a death threat would have nothing to fear but Champa's expression was rather obvious. It's more likely that if Hit feared Champa it was a result of exhaustion more than anything, but that's speculation. We don't know if Hit feared him or if he was just taken back by the threat as he implied that he was ready to fight him.

Also Hit is not "way stronger" than Goku right now, unless you're speaking as a result of the exhaustion since Hit is not as worn out. The writing is that they're only as strong as the other since they keep pushing the other to higher limits. There may be a gap, but it's not as wide as you're portraying it to be.

[BWYuko]

Hit should replace Vegeta as Goku's main rival, like Vegeta did to Piccolo, Tien, and Krillin before him.

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Not being serious.

lolpikkon

I believe that's an incorrect assessment. Beerus said when they originally fight that he had to use 70% of his power meanwhile Goku was using only 80 I believe. This was before they had all of the training from whis and MUCH before the Kaioken with blue. The fact that Beerus was completely taken back and showed concern of SSJB Kaioken speaks considerable volumes about Goku and Hit's strength. Hit and Goku just kicked the shit out of each other and we've learned that a sandwich only becomes tastier after being defeated since the frieza saga. (although they've dropped this concept a bit)

Whis' sister implied that Champa is the weaker one of the two and it's rather visible. Not to mention he does not work out enough to barely burn his own caloric intake as barely walking a small distance was considered "exercise". Champa was scared when both Goku and Hit looked at him basically telling him stfu we're fighting now don't interfere kthx. Someone in control of their pawns after just making a death threat would have nothing to fear but Champa's expression was rather obvious. It's more likely that if Hit feared Champa it was a result of exhaustion more than anything, but that's speculation. We don't know if Hit feared him or if he was just taken back by the threat as he implied that he was ready to fight him.

Also Hit is not "way stronger" than Goku right now, unless you're speaking as a result of the exhaustion since Hit is not as worn out. The writing is that they're only as strong as the other since they keep pushing the other to higher limits. There may be a gap, but it's not as wide as you're portraying it to be.

Hit is way stronger than Goku right now.

[Dantrag]

Also Hit is not "way stronger" than Goku right now, unless you're speaking as a result of the exhaustion since Hit is not as worn out. The writing is that they're only as strong as the other since they keep pushing the other to higher limits. There may be a gap, but it's not as wide as you're portraying it to be.

Hit is a TON stronger than Goku, he's been holding back due to the no killing rule. Goku even said it himself. He's forcibly not had to kill Goku/Vegeta multiple times.

Also, Hit was also worried once Champa started to threaten their team, which to me says they still have quite a way to go. Blue was not a power increase but a stamina increase. Basically allows them to stay in the form longer.

[Cream Soda]

I honestly don't think Champa can take Hit, but Hit had just taken a good number of blows from ssjb kaioken, so he def wasn't 100% when that match ended.

And I'm pretty sure everyone knows Whis/Vados are stronger than Beerus/Champa, so that may have also been a factor in keeping him from acting

[Vandalhart]

This did not go the way I thought it would.

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When Goku jumped out, I had forgotten all about the "stronger" guy. I was thinking he was using his brain and swapping earth to Universe 6. If they did that they could have fought to their heart's content.

[Waraji]

a sandwich only becomes tastier

Dat reference doe.

[SephYuyX]

Can't wait to see Whis fight.

[darkepyon]

Definitely wasn't expecting that kind of a finish!

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Despite being a total amateur, I guess they had to give Monaka at least some ring time, given how much they hyped him up before the tournament even started. Hit over-sold that punch like a Mr. Satan opponent though.

If they're planning for this series to go on for a while, I hope we get to see characters from the other universes.

[BWYuko]

Chapter 11 of the manga is posted.

[LinktheDeme]

Hit is a TON stronger than Goku, he's been holding back due to the no killing rule. Goku even said it himself. He's forcibly not had to kill Goku/Vegeta multiple times.

Also, Hit was also worried once Champa started to threaten their team, which to me says they still have quite a way to go. Blue was not a power increase but a stamina increase. Basically allows them to stay in the form longer.

"Strength" has not been the concept that has been stressed with Hit. It's his ability to aim specifically for vitals and the rate at which he "improves" Evidence suggests that the "holding back" was in regards to where he was aiming the blows. Hence the statement "Hit's an Assassin, his power comes from killing" etc. Your speculation discounts that Goku was holding back as well.

Goku seemed rather confident that even if Hit used all of his "Assassin tricks" Goku would still end the fight quickly. Hit does have a considerable more stamina than Goku.

Right they did have Hit have a look of concern on his face just as they had Beerus concerned with the Goku. The same as when Goku and Hit made Champa take back his initial death threat in the middle of the fight. Keep in mind this was before Hit (and most likely Goku) "improved" further as well. Exertion or "surprise" seems the most likely because it does not make sense that Champa's death threat would lose merit to the point where Champa was scared the first time, but suddenly have more weight after the fact. Champa has been "established" to be weaker than Beerus and only to bark, never to bite.

Although continuing this topic seems pointless. Using the platform of an argument as the basis and trying to re-assert it as the rationale for the argument is circular logic. There’s been no additional points raised or evidence brought up that’s credited “why” they have ways to go.

Dat reference doe.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...93/578/e86.jpg

[dasva]

But Goku is always confident....

[Ratatapa]

Episode was kinda meh but

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asking for the revival or a copy of universe7 for universe6 was kinda nice

[Tyrath]

Welp, more tournaments soon.

[Dantrag]

That's exciting.